The Iron Roses

[00:00:00] What's going on everyone welcome to another episode of Our Brains Hurt. Thank you so much for hanging out with us We have a show in a couple days Wednesday this Wednesday July 24th at Atlas Brew Works in Washington, DC

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[00:01:12] Our Brains Hurt Get a very non-copyright infringing sort of way Tonight we are talking to Iron Roses Specifically Nathan and Becky Yes Very excited for this because they are a rad band Oh my god so good that album is I was driving home from New York

[00:01:32] Yesterday? Yes yesterday and I was like I had it I played it like three or four times in a row It's great, it's great Yeah and on top of that like Nathan used to front Boy Sets Fire who I loved in the 90s in the early 2000s

[00:01:48] Well I didn't know that until you told me that and then when I got home I went on a five mile walk for some exercise And I listened to um was it after the U-B-G? Yes which is a fantastic

[00:02:00] Dude that album and I was getting goosebumps listening to it because in the early late night One thing I graduated I graduated college in 99 so it was like right around then I was fucking obsessed with that album

[00:02:14] Yeah and somebody stole it we had a show in our basement we used to have shows in our basement and I used to like put CDs out and play CDs between the sets Yeah and one night somebody stole that CD that was so mad

[00:02:28] It's such a good record like I was glued to that record for years Oh it's amazing And I think we probably need to get that out of the way very early tonight and move on to Iron Roses

[00:02:40] Yeah this is about Iron Roses but I definitely want to say thank you for some great music in my formative years Hell yeah Everything I haven't seen Iron Roses life but everything I've heard I can't wait Yeah and according to their band camp they're from Maryland

[00:02:57] Boy Sets Fire was from Delaware No shit really okay I always assume that if they're rad they're from LA Or at least that

[00:03:07] They formed in Delaware they may have based themselves out of Maryland after that but yeah I know they're from this area cause Pedro Aida I think is how you pronounce his last name He lives in Richmond and he's in Iron Roses too so Awesome Yeah

[00:03:24] Alright well they are in the room we're gonna let them in Cool Let's do it Hey what's up We're like orangutans they don't know how to use technology

[00:03:34] Zoom is it'd be nice if they just make it a one button thing but it's gotta be like a three button thing How you doing? Good how are you? There's a Jack Scalimkin Yeah Ron's current background is way better than mine Yeah

[00:03:50] I mean I wasn't supposed to say it but yeah Yeah Thanks so much for doing this Thank you So Matt and I were talking you know we just I just drove home from New York yesterday visiting my mother and some other family

[00:04:06] And I played your record like three or four times in a row and I just couldn't it's so fucking rad it's awesome Thank you Yeah

[00:04:13] Yes and we want we're gonna get into the many many things Iron Roses but first we also wanted to say thank you for Boyce That's Fire because it was huge Yeah Thank you Becky Thank you

[00:04:27] Thank you Nathan both of us were so such big Boyce That's Fire fans in the 90s and early 2000s and so thank you very much for some rad music during our formative years No problem Yeah Are you guys from Maryland? I saw it says Elton in the okay

[00:04:44] Yeah Yeah literally from Elton, Maryland you know everyone knows Elton, Maryland Yeah when you think punk rock you think LA New York and Elton Exactly Maryland Are you guys originally from Maryland? No We have different stories Yeah we do have different stories

[00:05:03] Well one thing that we like to ask people when they first come on the show is where are you from and how did you first get into punk rock because it's usually a pretty cool story so Yeah Even if it's not cool we still want to know

[00:05:15] Okay I'll go first Okay let's see I am originally from Delaware which is just over the state line like in Maryland and Newark, Delaware are like right here so

[00:05:27] But um yeah if you listen to Boyce That's Fire obviously Newark, Delaware was a big theme on what we did Because we thought it was funny because there were so many bands like Reppin like New York and some of them were like Newark, Delaware like it mattered

[00:05:43] But uh so came from Delaware and I've lived sort of over and across the border several times like as most people around here do If you live in Elton, Maryland, Newark, Delaware or Landonburg, Pennsylvania you've lived in all three Like it just happened

[00:06:02] So um let's see first getting into punk rock though had to have been in like eighth grade

[00:06:10] Um before that I was listening to like Poison and autograph and uh Rack and like you know it kind of like hair metal stuff like I was really into that and I know it's shocking Yeah I was a big hair metal guy too

[00:06:26] Very into the glam of it Weird Um but um it uh it was probably eighth grade and there was a uh a senior named Gordon

[00:06:40] I will never forget this person because he was the guy that was the punk kid at school and I was just like oh my god he's so cool

[00:06:47] You know and he made me a tape that on one side had black flag in my head and the other side had the first Violent Femmes album Very confusing because those are very different versions of punk

[00:07:05] But like but that's what was so cool about it and I kept getting stuff from him that was like all over the place

[00:07:11] So he was like my go-to for that stuff and then also my cousin who was living in Orlando at the time was like oh wait you're getting into punk here let me send you a bunch of stuff

[00:07:21] Cause that was sort of the thing man you know people would get stoked if you got into punk and they were like oh my god let me send you all my favorite bands you know

[00:07:27] Yeah so like Dead Kennedys Fear, Black Flag, like any of that stuff during the time Um and that's it really went from there and took off obviously and became a thing that I just that's what I've faced my life around

[00:07:45] What was the scene like where you grew up? Do you remember the first punk show you went to? Was it a local show or was it? Yes I do

[00:07:51] This is a funny story so Black Flag's last tour before they broke up as what they were I think it was like 84 or something like that

[00:08:03] I snuck out of the house because that guy Gordon was going to him and this guy Pete that I looked up to were going to this Black Flag show

[00:08:11] I snuck out of the house went to this Black Flag show left probably after two songs because I was terrified

[00:08:21] Like I had no idea what to expect and I was so stoked on the music but I went in and like Henry Rollins and that Manson hair and the little shorts And like bottle the bottle flew across the room like it was horrifying

[00:08:36] Like I was like oh no no no this is what I wanted this is what I wanted

[00:08:41] Like ran out like I was like a little like Christian kid you know my dad was a pastor like all this shit like this was terrified I had never I was sheltered

[00:08:49] I had not experienced this so ran back home and probably prayed myself and cried myself to sleep And in retrospect you were probably half terrified half turned on a little bit I mean they both sort of go hand in hand you know But she's not wrong

[00:09:14] But um then after that it was funny I didn't go see another Punk show until a few years later There was this skate contest where screeching weasel played and they played and judge the skate contest which was hilarious because Fuck So he wins you know

[00:09:39] Unfortunately Ben Weasel turned out to be a complete fucking douche But there were some good songs and that was a fun experience you know yeah um but that that's my story Where was that where was that show was that in Philadelphia Florida?

[00:09:53] I grew up in Newark Delaware until I was about 11 and then my dad well my parents were both going to I don't know Jesus school down in Florida and so I we moved down there and it was during that time is when I discovered punk rock

[00:10:12] Grade you know And Becky I am not from around here. I moved here Being Elkden, Maryland. I live two doors away from Nathan right now. I've moved here Right before the pandemic so late 2019 I bounced around a lot as a kid and grew up in military brat

[00:10:37] But I graduated high school in most of my like formative years to use the term we've already used once because why not use it again In Columbus, Ohio So I did not come up in the punk scene That was not a place that I

[00:10:55] Felt I belonged much. Why are you laughing because I come up in the pun never mind Oh in like Like I was a theater brat and I

[00:11:12] Big pal like Pat Benatar and heart like big power like any email singers like that's the shit that like pulled me along um But yeah, like even even into my like late teens and early 20s Like I never went to a lot of punk shows because I

[00:11:32] Came from a place of like just feeling like I didn't belong in them And so I think sometimes I still feel that way like when we were at punk rock bowling. I was like do they know I'm not cool here like

[00:11:45] Am I doing here at 46 like what what am I near for but um, yeah So I don't have like a quote unquote punk come up story Mostly just came out of a bunch of nerdy spaces and tripped into a punk fan in here

[00:12:01] Do you remember your first punk show um, what was the first show that we played? Like Not No I Still emulate that shit like what we write like sometimes all he knows and I'm like yeah I still got I

[00:12:34] Was um now I'm blinking out. Oh Linda one stat. Yeah Show show I don't Yeah, whatever the fuck you wanted to be That's right Punk is fuck I can't I can't tell you how many times that the house I lived in in my like mid 20s

[00:12:56] How many times we would just be jamming the Pat Benatar and heart in the kitchen and singing along and We had a lot of fun doing that. Yeah, how was punk rock bowling?

[00:13:10] Great we played in a couple of great spots like the first night we had a pool party show which was Yeah So many weird run-ins with bands and like punk idols recently that has blown me the fuck away

[00:13:33] Playing with all who that's a fuck like I was listening to them in eighth grade. You know what I mean? Like it's like fucking weird when that lineup dropped it dropped like I think We found out when the public found out and we were just like what?

[00:13:50] Yeah, so it was it was a really good experience. I hope we get to go back like it was yeah definitely Different than I thought it was gonna be like I I wasn't anticipating again from from that place of like do I belong here?

[00:14:04] Like I was anticipating having a lot of that when we walked around it was just it Felt awesome. I don't know It's also cool because like we're playing in a lot of different spaces Boys that's fired it. You know what I mean? Like it's a different realm

[00:14:22] There was like one voice that's fire fan punk rock bowling and he was stoked You know what I mean? Like but he did it was funny because I saw me had a voice as fire churn

[00:14:30] I was like, oh, let me take a picture and he was like. Oh, he had no idea who the fuck I was And what was great so we were eating we're eating dinner and I saw my like oh my god, I've got because

[00:14:44] Josh's son Jonah had made the shirt I was like, oh my god, I need to take a picture with you so I can send it back to the guys and he was just like

[00:14:52] Okay, look again. We took a picture later. He came up to me crying after the show I was just looking at my food and I happened to look up and I was like there's definitely a dude in a voice that's fire Right behind me

[00:15:13] But but it's funny because like punk rock bowling and stuff like that there's people there that are like maybe have heard of it That kind of hardcore and like honk Different worlds, you know, I mean playing in this where it's like

[00:15:28] You don't really have that a lot. I mean, it's it's a brand new thing for people And they're like this is the band that you're in yeah

[00:15:36] Which is sort of cool, you know to me where it's just oh I'm here because I like that other band. Yeah, well, what about this one? You know Talk about iron roses like how and when did iron roses form? Oh

[00:15:50] That's a somewhat about convoluted long yeah, like the I guess the digestible short version is it was born out of Nathan's solo projects I've actually had the opportunity to sing backing vocals on all of Nathan's solo albums

[00:16:09] And it felt like just as each album came out it started to no pun intended It started to get a little less like you centered and a little bit more like full band sound

[00:16:21] And I think you got to a place where you're like this is I don't want to be a dude playing guitar or Day yeah, or is she playing just playing guitar on a stage

[00:16:37] It was just so boring to me like I had it was good because I think like in the beginning of that it was really my Working through a lot of shit and when you're doing that on a personal level

[00:16:50] It's easier if you're just you and a guitar playing sort of sad songs, you know Incredibly sad songs Because I was thinking about like abuse I had gone through that I hadn't really processed or gotten help for and

[00:17:05] Then once I got through that then I'm like, oh no, there's more So It was but once I Got through that it was like I really miss just being in a band. This isn't my thing I don't really want to be like

[00:17:30] Lucero, you know or something like that, you know or like Chuck Reagan's great when he plays on his own You know me but yeah, it's like getting lost in it. Like it was like I'm sort of boring myself

[00:17:41] Yeah, so but I would say that what's funny is that The real birth of the iron roses no matter what happened right before this Literally took place in that studio for that last album. That's when we went. Oh fuck

[00:18:00] This is what we are. This is what we're doing, you know what I mean before that It was still me sort of writing a lot of the songs and then them sort of Picking it a little bit but once we got into the studio

[00:18:15] Everyone like we tore those songs to shreds and everybody jumped in everybody put their part in and it was just like This is what it was supposed to be. This is what it's always supposed to be

[00:18:26] And so that I would say that was the true birth of the iron roses was in the studio

[00:19:29] Kick up their phones So they're games They were the dice of frequency They were pulled down to misplace play Lashing up for the come ups Lashing up for their lives Lashing out at each other Lashing up for the crimes Oh I don't know how to break up

[00:20:01] But I know I'm trying hard to everyday To run and talk to the man, put it down and walk away I'm just screaming for a change Why you waving the flags and making tears in the back crying out when he figures the place

[00:20:21] And your neighbors in the struggle why you sleeping in your bubble building creeds till the rainbow escape You want me you are like a brother the other you be left with a life on a chain What the fear that's the night you get to play the video

[00:20:35] And you die a living it's way Don't know how to break it But oh trying harder everyday to rise up strike a match put it down and walk away To rise up strike a match put it down To fly away I'm just screaming for a change

[00:21:04] I'm just screaming for a chasing I'm just screaming for a change I'm Philip Thank you that like when I put it on I just listen to the whole thing and don't like pick songs. Yeah.

[00:21:33] Oh yeah, it's awesome. Like that is one I like I haven't bought it on vinyl yet but I'm going to and the only reason I haven't is because my uh the the the shit the sound comes out of for my

[00:21:44] record players broken it would be kind of pointless to buy it until I fix it. All my shit's broken. Are you broken? Do we need a house? Yeah, but that's a longer conversation. God, yes, I've been waiting for someone to ask.

[00:22:02] How did you get hooked up with the dudes from Breaking Even Fest? Our guitar player Pedro who we was probably one of the last not probably he was like la the last big piece into kind of forming where we are now as Aaron Rose is Pedro is

[00:22:19] one of those guys that fucking knows everybody. Yeah, like he knows everybody. I know him a little bit. Yeah, it's a little bit but yeah. Yeah, you do that like he just he's he's a people person. He's been playing music a long

[00:22:35] time for you know a lot of different projects and he just knows everybody and um they had actually reached out to us last year about opening a show for them in DC which we did

[00:22:47] and the funny story about that show is I think the day before we American television. So um they asked us to open a show and it was right before our album had come out and like

[00:23:05] we were jonesing because before that we were playing you know basically Nathan's old songs and we had this album that we were about to put out yeah we were just playing those songs so

[00:23:17] we just said fuck it like let's just play our brand new album front to back not say anything. Yeah, that's what we did um and so you know we've kept in touch with them

[00:23:28] since then and that that's been about a year ago now a little bit less than a year ago now so when they invited us to play this uh we absolutely said hell yes and then it's it's even

[00:23:40] more special that it's going to be their last one so I'm excited that yeah yeah yeah yes Steve is a is a great dude um I've known him for a while and they're uh if you

[00:23:52] met Chris their new lead guitarist yeah yeah yeah Chris and I have been friends since we were teenagers I go way way back with him so that night yeah he was hanging out and he was so stoked about

[00:24:05] getting started yeah I think it was right there oh yeah him and I used to ride around in cars when teenagers like just blasting voice at fire that's the best guitar yeah awesome

[00:24:17] if I was to ask you guys like what is your most memorable show that you've ever played do you have does anything just kind of pop into your head and it could be it could be iron roses

[00:24:26] it could be any any other band you've ever been why this is hard is because we dropped that album in October and the amount of amazing opportunities and incredible shows they can fall that we've

[00:24:38] had the opportunity to play in less than a year is just like we're constantly like how how is this happening like this is happening holy shit so we've had the albums fucking rad that's why yeah

[00:24:50] yeah that's 100% why it's true testament to the album yeah like it's just like the things that like we're asked to do and like opportunities were given it's just what yeah like this is

[00:25:03] yeah I couldn't even it's only July and I'm like cataloging through things and I'm thinking yeah there's so many cool ones but even like who's a fast we just played a fucking incredible show at the festival it was nine million degrees hot as balls Pedro

[00:25:23] people after the set and I was shaking because it was having a panic attack I thought I was gonna but it was front to back people and like it would people that I've never

[00:25:33] it's one thing to play a show and to see people up front singing the lyrics who you know you know what I mean like right on the internet or you know they're a fan but that night was crazy to me

[00:25:43] because it was like I was looking out and there were people singing along to every fucking word that I'd never seen in my life and I was like this is that's brilliant love that's that's

[00:25:53] all about me it really doesn't get much better than that that's so yeah that was a good one yeah have you ever have you ever played in a band previous to I have not at this level so I always

[00:26:05] joked that I used to be like the furgy of my scene like I felt like there was like there were like three different bands where I would do like awesome so I would record one song on their album

[00:26:17] and then like big shows um in Columbus I you know grew up where I grew up um the the venue that everybody played out all the time every fucking weekend was the Alra Zavilla which is for

[00:26:28] Dimebag was actually shot so like that was the that was the venue that I spent you know my time at every single fucking weekend I would just get up and do a song with a band or if two bands were

[00:26:41] playing you know like that so this is the first time that I've had the opportunity to co-front a band um and be the person behind the scenes doing all the

[00:27:02] yeah it's a lot of work I don't think a lot of people who've never played in bands before don't realize how much fucking work it has to do all that stuff god god yeah it's constant but I wouldn't

[00:27:12] want to turn it over to anybody else right you know I was like nobody knows how like nobody cares about it the way that I do or we do right I always know I'm making the best decisions because I want it

[00:27:26] Nathan what about you as far as uh I've never been in a band before this is my first time oh any if I was probably to ask you what your most memorable show was is anything like shoot

[00:27:41] up to the top of your head I think honestly like some of the most memorable shows that I've played especially with this band um have been playing in places that I've been before

[00:28:01] but not with this band you know me being able to come in with the iron roses and especially on the last show the last tour we did uh in Europe it was cool you know what I mean to be able to

[00:28:13] introduce people to what I'm doing now and who I am and what's going on you know what I mean so like I would say that whole tour in general the last European one that we did uh and playing

[00:28:26] vangestream recently was incredible um so it's really hard to pick out of those you know because each one it's like this experience where I get to introduce what's happening now to people who have been around for like decades you know

[00:28:51] and that's that's a really cool feeling that's and that usually only happens really in Europe because boys such fire we sort of I mean no better way to say it we sort of fell off in the

[00:29:00] US and then stopped touring in the US you know what I mean and so but in Germany enormous you know I mean we could play to like you know 5 000 people and in you know and just like enormous

[00:29:15] like things have our own festival you know um so to be able to take this band over there is was a big deal yeah it's crazy too because like you know we talk to a ton of bands and that

[00:29:30] just seems to be the common thread nowadays is we're going to Europe because that's where I don't know what the fuck is going on in the US but like yeah it's sad is what it is it's sad but funny enough

[00:29:45] not for Europe I appreciate them yeah funny this band has really gotten a foothold that I didn't expect in the US and Canada like that's awesome see that coming but I'm stoked on it

[00:29:59] because I know it's not because of who I am you know or what I write you know what I'm saying yeah it's because you guys put out a rad album yeah yeah right yeah it takes me happy you know like

[00:30:12] did I not that I want to shit on that legacy or like be like fuck that it's more of the fact that it's just like it's it's honest and it's uh organic and it's not just well yeah we'll give

[00:30:25] it a shot because of this you know it's more like no I actually appreciate this and that's that's really cool thing for someone who's been doing something for like three decades you know totally

[00:30:37] yeah yeah you know want to do something new want to delve into other things and to have that appreciate it is a huge thing yeah actually um when when Chris told me about you guys because

[00:30:49] I had heard your name but when you guys played with American television he told me he was like dude you gotta check out the iron roses they're fucking rad so I listened to that album and I was

[00:30:57] like wow this is a fucking phenomenal album it wasn't till Becky emailed me that I realized I saw the name Nathan Gray and I was like wait like voice it's fire Nathan Gray and I was like

[00:31:07] holy shit like I was like I already love this like yeah yeah that's awesome it's funny to play there are there are times in the US where we've played shows or even festivals where like

[00:31:20] people have no fucking idea you're in that band which would never happen in Europe yeah yeah yeah so it is kind of fun it's like a fun little game yeah it's cool it also speaks to your creativity

[00:31:33] and your writing because you could come out with a different project and people want eat it up just as you know what I mean it's it's it is all it must be a great feeling and it's very different

[00:31:44] and it's very you know it's got a completely different sound and feel to it and it and it's nice it's refreshing to be able to do that um yeah yeah it's a great story I love it yeah

[00:32:02] what are you guys currently spinning like if you were to hop in your cars and drive somewhere what are you uh what are you listening to these days well if you ask us this week is probably

[00:32:12] yeah I know it's exciting yeah yeah yeah yeah we've been writing this week and so yeah it's a lot of playback of that yeah we so we've recently like on social media as you can tell

[00:32:24] we finally established who this band is which is you know and uh our friend Colin Clive from mustard plug has finally joined the band as oh second guitarist permanently and uh and we have

[00:32:40] our friend Devin Hunt who we knew from Massachusetts as joined as the drummer permanent drummer and so all the parts that fit together now everybody's locked in now so uh because we've

[00:32:54] had a lot of trouble just that revolving door of people so a lot of it like she said we've just been like listening to ourselves going dang dang dang does that sound cool yeah I don't know like

[00:33:06] one of the bands that I do listen to a lot uh if i'm not doing that uh co-defendants I like a lot okay yeah oh they're great yeah they're amazing and um trying to think oh oh

[00:33:19] vandal ears yeah god they're good yeah I had I didn't really know who they were until we played with them at punk rock saves lives and they fucking blew me away like their stage show like

[00:33:32] everything about them the energy of what they do like just like yeah and I'm yeah we are pushing on them to take us on tour next year yes you're actually the second person who has told me to

[00:33:46] listen to them or the or that they've been listening to them very recently I need to check them out yeah I have it just the energy of what they do is just yeah it's it's a beautiful

[00:33:58] like unexpected pieces of it's fucking because it's got like a very like country punk sort of feel but then there's like little pieces of like ska and things that they throw in to sort of

[00:34:11] amp it up a little bit and it's great I just where are they from where they're from I'll take this yeah okay only other band that I would say that I've been listening to pretty

[00:34:20] regularly outside of that is lambrini girls who are actually on tour in the US right now but they're what did you equate them to I made you listen to them and what did I said I don't remember but

[00:34:36] there some fronted queer punk like fucking crazy industrial sort of sounding yeah they're like they're intense like a big black feel or like like that like guitar driven industrial like it's it's cool yeah like it yeah they're crazy bitches

[00:35:00] it's on the list now yeah get it so then after breaking evening fest which is coming up in a couple weeks in DC you guys are going on tour with mad caddies is that right yes yep oh really

[00:35:12] that's what we're saying we have had we've gotten to play in front of so many different crowds this year yeah we just used a motion city soundtrack to our like it's cool to test

[00:35:23] the waters with other people but mad caddies can be so and it's funny because mad caddies it's like a full circle to make because uh boys that's why I used to play a lot of festivals

[00:35:33] with them in europe and I remember just sort of hating on them a little bit because they they were always like tuning their horns outside our bus like it's like wake up like

[00:35:53] and now I play in a band that has scott overtones to it but it's really funny because like when we got offered that tour I was like oh my god that's so fucking hilarious because I remember every day

[00:36:05] I'd wake up and like mad caddies oh my god is that a uh like just an east coast store west coast tour or is that what is that does that go it starts in Chicago and then just sort of does

[00:36:17] yeah it's like st louis miniapolis it won't come down towards like the dc balsam ryan if it hits east coast or at least you have a dmv or whatever I would

[00:36:34] yes I would definitely have been to that one because I am a long time mad caddies fan as well you could always just book a trip you your guy could you deserve a trip you're having a rush you are that's actually pretty accurate

[00:36:57] you're not far off believe me we were having this interview and then he just had a breakdown I'm gonna go get a bottle of scotch hold on we'll break down some balls this is the episode before I went solo because Matt

[00:37:18] walked away from his computer and never came back all right I'm gonna ask you guys these four questions that we ask everybody on the podcast these are super important yeah very important questions all right

[00:37:34] especially the first two yeah okay the first question is if you were on death row what would your final meal be oh I thought you meant like the label no or that if they took you out to eat okay guys I can't wrap that well

[00:37:56] so what would our last meal what would your final meal be what would your what would would you want to eat last KFC mashed potatoes like a pile of Haribo gummy bears oh so good yes right yeah hell yeah

[00:38:20] mine's gonna be stupid I don't know like oh but there's been some insane I was fucking cool like fucking mashed potatoes and gummy bears that's that is a great answer that might be the coolest answer you've ever had that is a great that is a great answer

[00:38:35] like something dumb like I don't know like um like eating everything yeah Nathan it's like I'm a go like there are a few things that you can put in front of Nathan that they won't yeah we have something in common there olives is the only thing

[00:38:52] I fucking hate olives hate olives oh wow yeah no they're all absolutely awful you know what Matt tell Matt tell him how much you love olives I uh I love olives so much that I named my daughter on oh my god

[00:39:08] I um you know why I hate olives I will get to that but do you know why hate olives is important because they look like they should be pickled like they look like they should taste like pickled

[00:39:29] and don't and that aggravates me I could see that make that actually makes sense to me yeah get into my issues a little bit here this is like I literally I remember as a kid going oh it's

[00:39:42] like pickles and never wanting them again like but what would my fucking meal be I don't fucking know um it would be absolutely steak like the fucking rare as nasty steak yeah okay and some potatoes so

[00:40:01] you could go out with your tummy hurting oh yeah because okay so I love potatoes but they hurt my stomach for some reason I'm not really sure why and I'm not gonna see a doctor right right right

[00:40:12] so I uh yeah I would just imagine what he just talked about anything potato so mashed that you'd go yeah I don't care about the KFC at like home style like real

[00:40:26] mashed potatoes yeah I would do that because what would it fucking matter I'm about to die oh wait I mean I could eat all the things like you know I'll just eat a fucking raw onion because fuck

[00:40:37] I have really bad digestion like with like tomato sauce and I need because I'm fucking old so grandma cannot tolerate certain things so I just eat all that shit you know I mean just munching

[00:40:51] on an onion and like I don't know just making this miserable for as for them as possible right right cool um all right second question is what is your favorite cereal

[00:41:09] that's a good one I do yeah we had to add this one this is yeah this this question starts so many good conversations it's it's hard because anything chocolate we are so often I know

[00:41:21] is my jam like we're very opposite on this she's very like vanilla and cotton candy cake flavored shit like I am if it has chocolate in it I'm fucking eating it okay chocolate like cocoa puffs

[00:41:36] even like when you get into like like that um special k with the chocolate yeah I'll eat the shit out of that I love that's why we added this question here is one of my favorites um the little shredded wheat the

[00:41:56] blueberry shredded wheat so the blueberry ones are the right yeah oh my god oh shit I would eat a whole fucking box of that shit so good have you ever had the pumpkin spice one no yes it's limited

[00:42:12] edition I've got it once I forget where I got it but it's if you like pumpkin and pumpkin spice which I do until why do they have it out right now not right now it'll probably be September check your grocery store shelves in September

[00:42:27] well tell me about your weird vanilla yeah Becky what about you because it makes the best milk at the end excuse me fruit even though it's gonna pair that say fruity pebbles no okay

[00:42:44] no groups I would definitely pick fruit loops ever fruity pebbles fruity pebbles can go fuck that's my free pebbles is my favorite cereal that's Ron cereal but there's a whole method to eating it though because it gets so soggy so quick

[00:43:00] it's like paper like yeah which you gotta pour a little bit eat it fast and then pour a little bit more eat it you do it smart okay all right there's a method if you're if you're really into

[00:43:11] it you could do it right but yeah see I'm with you I fruity pebbles can go out the window I'm like yeah I'll take fruit loops on day sure but like fruity pebbles

[00:43:22] did you guys they taste the same with me fruity pebbles and fruit loops it's just different textures they the taste is the same the textures are different to me last femur

[00:43:34] here's the third question is and they actually do this now if you were to be cremated they could take your ashes and form it into a vinyl record of your choice so if you were going to have

[00:43:44] your ashes eternalize in an album of your choice which album would you pick and it has to be one that exists like you can't like a lot of people are like well I would just make a compilation of

[00:43:54] like my favorite songs but it has to be like an album that you could actually buy I mean because I thought I think it would be funny if it was like a a compilation but it was a compilation of

[00:44:04] like outtakes of songs we never used that saw me just go do do do do like something on my phone I think that'd be hilarious to make an album of that one damn it no no no

[00:44:24] yeah yeah I'll make money um but the two albums it would either be um the first clash album um the self-titled clash album or bad religion suffer oh sweet bad religion suffer is like one of the almost perfect punk rock albums of all time

[00:44:46] only one that even comes close to it is no control yep yes that's yeah we talked about the factual answer yes there's no yeah yes everybody else is correct yeah correct Matt and I have been validated

[00:44:59] once again yeah hi Becky okay so I had like the first thing that came to mind was super fucking dorky and like too meaningful after he just went off so I'm scratching that um

[00:45:19] love ruining your hopes and dreams um I don't know because I feel like I would be driven you know me I'm like driven towards like needing calm and peace because my brain is anything but

[00:45:37] so like I would want to I would want to go out and be an olifer on all or a slow metal slow metal slow meadow album so it'd be between either of those two but

[00:45:49] in an effort of conversation my first instinct I told you I did preface that it was gonna be dorky would have been the original god spell vinyl because I had that like that was the first

[00:46:04] show like not the first show that I did when I was a kid but the first one that really was like holy shit like being on the stage is something that is I need this forever yeah and I had that

[00:46:14] on vinyl like that I would use to practice my parts with so yeah cool but also suffer no yeah that's a good answer it's the first two so yeah it is yep do you remember the first piece of music

[00:46:38] you ever bought I was it was funny because I was listening I got a car recently and I had like this three month free subscription to Sirius XM so I've been like listening to it in my car

[00:46:47] and a death leopard hysteria keeps coming up and that was the first the first album I ever bought was like when I wasn't like I think I was in fifth grade was hysteria from death leopard on cd

[00:46:59] so the first thing that I literally bought right is that's what you're asking okay yeah because that was once I got into punk it was the first thing I bought I went to a used cassette

[00:47:14] vinyl place and I got three I got three out three tapes and no four four tapes it was black flag in my head all Roy says bad brains eye against eye and di what good is grief to a god nice

[00:47:35] oh all great yeah all great mine was definitely an Amy Grant still making mine the lamest answers to that question so yeah probably another first on the show a yeah 100% 100% um the last question that we ask everybody is who is on your Mount Rushmore of punk rock

[00:48:09] and you get five people because we give you a crazy horse too so five people who would you put on your Mount Rushmore of punk and you know it's what you consider to be punk rock there's no rules here uh Joe Strummer Greg Graffin

[00:48:27] Bob Mold Sam McFeeters board against okay girl great yeah and I'm arguing with myself in my head on this one Nathan Gray a boy says fire yeah that's a legend um I keep sort of going back and forth between like HR or Jellaby offer but

[00:49:00] like both of them have sort of annoyed me also at points so like yeah um I mean it's hard not to choose HR that's a no you know but but then there's all come on

[00:49:15] but then there's also like Ian Mackay and Kathleen Hannah let's go with her okay because that was that was a huge moment in punk rock that was just like a giant middle finger like she

[00:49:36] was fucking incredible like just in the whole thing pissing off literally everyone yeah all the time you know I'll go with that yeah and the fifth one being the crazy horse is kind of like the wild

[00:49:50] color anyway you know so yeah yeah right right so you got it yeah yeah that's part that's like the perfect dance yeah yeah um uh this is hard to try to beat the most perfect dancer of all time

[00:50:03] I'm not gonna take people that were like important to me and not necessarily like to what everybody considers important to punk rock so yeah that's perfect though that's that's we've had like people have answered like like little Richard has been on this list before from

[00:50:20] people like yeah that's what some people like that's what we're looking for here yeah because you know people who listen maybe they don't know some of those people and they check them out and

[00:50:29] they love it too you know um okay so I'm gonna go with Elvis Presley even though the more that we learn about him the more we realize he ripped a lot of his style off um it's true um

[00:50:48] but he's still the king yeah and important to me like as a kid like yeah um and fat Vegas Elvis is so lovable right you never have enough love yeah so this um I will also go with Corey Amos um

[00:51:13] oh yeah she's punk as fuck I don't care what anybody says 100% the woman plays the piano like yeah how do you perform sitting on a bench it's wild yeah seeing her for the first time so Elvis uh Tory Amos obviously Pat Benatar also punk as fuck

[00:51:36] I love these amos yeah I love this list because we just these are three people who have never made it to the maybe Elvis might have been Elvis has been on there but okay Tory Amos and

[00:51:46] Pat Benatar definitely have not yeah um Jeff Buckley because he is my Elvis like I remember where I was when the news of his death came out like I was a huge fan of his so like the loss of

[00:52:00] him was you know a big deal for me but also musically like the way that he was unafraid to be gentle in his voice um I don't know there's something about that that I that I thought was you know important um and then my fifth one

[00:52:20] I'm gonna say just for the sake of being unafraid to oh it was really going to be a toss up between two people who are similar and one has been

[00:52:34] compared to the other so it's either going to go to Madonna or it's going to go to Lady Gaga oh I mean both work I'm gonna write in Madonna because I was obsessed with Madonna like the reason that I wanted to pick one of them is because of

[00:52:52] they're not being afraid to take up space and that's important to me and like using that I'm learning she was the one that did it first so who goes back this will come as a shock to

[00:53:02] no one but there was a there's a version of Madonna's uh like a prayer that she did lie with this yeah so I know exactly the one you're talking about I lost it I was like I had to have been

[00:53:17] like watch it I had to have been like 19 I guess yeah and I remember putting the VHS tape in and I was watching him like I love Madonna you know and I'm watching it and that part came on it was

[00:53:29] just like yeah like it's so good she's so good yeah and then in the same right Lady Gaga at that MTV Music Awards with the blood and she's screaming and frotze oh fucking brilliant yeah absolutely

[00:53:49] afraid to take up space yeah and to not always be pretty even though like traditionally people think Madonna's beautiful like yeah not being afraid to not always be that yeah yeah yeah

[00:54:02] I got into punk rock when I was in sophomore in high school maybe like late sophomore in high school and I remember a friend of mine once asked me right before that asked me what music what kind of music

[00:54:13] I like and my answer was Madonna like what he's like what do you mean Madonna like that's what I like I like Madonna that's all I listen to Madonna taught me what punk rock was without even

[00:54:29] fucking knowing it before you know I was I was introduced to it like not too far after that but speaking of like a prayer the do you guys remember when the like a prayer video first played on MTV

[00:54:42] and she kissed the dude at the end and every one of the 80s fucking freaked out because Madonna just kissed a black guy on TV and like and I was like you know I was a kid but I was like

[00:54:51] I don't understand what the big deal is why is everybody out like she just kissed a guy and yeah and then you know five years later like I find out what punk rock is and I learned a

[00:55:02] lot of shit and I was like oh fuck man Madonna taught me how to be punk because I was like going against it like fuck you like that's there's nothing yeah so punk rock yeah and constantly herself and her yeah which I fucking love like you should never

[00:55:19] be born and die the same person like if you're not reinventing along the way then you missed out on a lot yeah yeah yeah so all right so you know we're so you guys are

[00:55:34] doing the break and even fest at the beginning of April I mean sorry April August 9th is when you guys are playing break and even set chess is August 9th 10th at 11th at the pie shop in DC

[00:55:44] which is an awesome venue it is um and then you guys are going on tour with mad caddies let everybody know where they could find you online and all that good stuff um we are on all the socials

[00:55:59] at the iron roses so we sometimes use threads but mostly we're instagram people because we're of that age but we're not yeah old that we only use facebook but we are on facebook is

[00:56:14] one to check us out there basically because we when we post something to instagram and immediately goes to facebook that's right yeah yeah you can also find us at iron rose iron roses dot band

[00:56:28] that's our website um we're on bands in town if you want to follow us there to find out we're coming to a town near you we're on tiktok but i don't keep very good yeah i don't do very good

[00:56:41] maintenance over there with that so it's man anyway i know it's popular but yeah yeah awesome thanks again thanks so much for doing this and we hope to meet you guys

[00:56:59] at breaking even fest um yes yeah it would be yeah honestly feel like you're avoiding us if we don't yeah we will we will see you there yeah um and we're super excited and again the album is amazing and

[00:57:18] well is it cool if we play a couple songs from the record on this on this episode better yeah okay awesome yeah we'll just we'll throw them in there as yeah we'll throw one in

[00:57:27] the middle and we'll close the podcast with one as well so i love it okay all right guys thank you so much yeah thanks so much for doing this and we'll see you in a couple weeks and and uh and very

[00:57:37] nice to meet you as well yes you as well bye see you take care bye

[00:58:16] if you're wrong they don't want to be right the old god falls tonight cause ain't nobody gonna listen to you just another bullet won't give up your own decay next stop annihilation going up in a world you can't contain

[00:58:39] cause the kids are gonna be alright they're never gonna do your life if you're wrong they don't want to be right the old god falls tonight smash it up there's no way left to hide smash it up smash it up smash it up

[00:58:56] push back with the heart they left behind push back push back give up the ground hit the ground running they don't know what they got coming you got nothing to lose keep a time on your side be alright they're never gonna do your life

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