The Lousekateers

[00:00:00] What is going on everyone? Welcome to another episode of Our Brains Hurt. December 7th, it's only two weeks away, three weeks away. Just one day less than three weeks away. The Pie Shop in D.C. The Jasons, Huntington's, My Band The Blanks, Beatnik Termites, The Stives, Dead End Lane, Pie Shop, Washington D.C., Six Bands, Saturday Night, December 7th, the day before my birthday, it's also my birthday party. Come hang out, tickets are on sale now. Hit us up on all our socials to find out the ticket links.

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[00:01:41] What's up? How's it going? What's going on? Val, this is Matt. Nice to meet you.

[00:01:50] My partner in crime. Yeah. Nice to meet you.

[00:01:54] Danimal, the chankster. This is Matt. Now you all know each other.

[00:01:59] Ron, I just got a kitten. Look at this.

[00:02:02] Matt's got a cat on him.

[00:02:04] Yeah.

[00:02:05] Look at this little cat. So she's like running across the keyboard. She might accidentally shut it off.

[00:02:11] Don't let her cute little face fool you. She's like a little anarchist.

[00:02:15] Is she a Siamese?

[00:02:16] She's a rag doll.

[00:02:19] Okay.

[00:02:20] Yeah. They're like dogs. They're like the dogs of cats.

[00:02:24] The dogs of cats.

[00:02:27] Val, tell her your cat's name.

[00:02:29] Oh, Ruby. Her name's Ruby Soho.

[00:02:31] Oh, nice.

[00:02:32] Nice. That's great.

[00:02:34] Great name.

[00:02:36] Thanks. I was hearing when we were going to pick her up, I was hearing we're adding a little segment of that to one of our songs.

[00:02:44] And I was hearing that song and I'm like, I know the name.

[00:02:47] I was thinking of anything in my cat and I was like, it's going to be Ruby Soho.

[00:02:51] That's awesome.

[00:02:54] Thanks.

[00:02:55] Very, very cool.

[00:02:56] All right. So this is going to be the two of you tonight. Yeah.

[00:02:58] Yeah.

[00:02:59] The Lousketeers.

[00:03:00] All right. We've done stuff in the past and you guys were part of our first show just a couple of months ago in Baltimore, which is awesome.

[00:03:10] Give us like a little background on the Lousketeers, kind of like a little history of how it formed, like what the two of you guys do.

[00:03:15] I know what the two of you guys do, but just, you know, for the people listening at home.

[00:03:19] Should I tell the story about the first time I met Dan?

[00:03:23] Dan?

[00:03:24] Yes. I do want to hear that.

[00:03:26] You're going to get mad at me.

[00:03:27] So Dan was like, I found Dan on Craigslist.

[00:03:32] I'm sure most people in his life found him on Craigslist, right?

[00:03:35] Yes.

[00:03:35] Oh, yeah.

[00:03:36] Yeah.

[00:03:37] You name him, girlfriend, cat.

[00:03:40] Yeah.

[00:03:41] So like, you know, that could go either way.

[00:03:44] And at the time I was living in a little apartment by myself.

[00:03:49] It could lead to a great band or you being murdered.

[00:03:51] Yeah.

[00:03:52] Yeah.

[00:03:52] There's always a, it's a crutch shoot.

[00:03:54] You know, I mean, I lived in New York City long enough to not be afraid of anything.

[00:03:59] Yeah.

[00:03:59] But I mean, so I was like, all right, you know, let me invite this guy over.

[00:04:03] So he comes over and doesn't talk to me.

[00:04:07] He just walks past me and starts playing the drums.

[00:04:11] And I'm like, very awkward.

[00:04:13] It's like when you first meet somebody and like, you're about to do it or something and

[00:04:19] they don't like you, you skip dinner.

[00:04:21] You just go straight to it.

[00:04:22] And that's it.

[00:04:23] Like we missed something here.

[00:04:25] You know, I don't know that because I'm horrible with chicks.

[00:04:28] So that, that is totally far as right.

[00:04:30] No way.

[00:04:30] You're in the blanks.

[00:04:31] You're in the blanks.

[00:04:33] How did you be horrible with chicks?

[00:04:34] I have never talked to a woman that I didn't already know liked me.

[00:04:38] That's how horrible I, I would rather like.

[00:04:40] Like, that's, that's the most terrifying thing in the world to me is to walk up to a girl

[00:04:45] that I don't know at all.

[00:04:47] And just to start talking to her.

[00:04:48] Like, fuck that dude.

[00:04:49] Like I'd rather, I would walk right past you and play the drums.

[00:04:54] Yeah, exactly.

[00:04:55] I don't.

[00:04:56] That's what he did.

[00:04:57] Yeah.

[00:04:57] It was so weird.

[00:04:58] And I'm like, um, so are we going to like have a conversation?

[00:05:02] I'm like, you know, so like afterwards we sat down at the time.

[00:05:07] It was just me and him.

[00:05:08] We had no idea what we were doing.

[00:05:11] So this invite, when you invited him over, it was, it was, it was as a band type thing.

[00:05:18] Like you were looking for a drummer.

[00:05:19] Okay.

[00:05:20] So you had a drum kit at your house?

[00:05:23] Is that what it was?

[00:05:24] Or did you, you brought it over?

[00:05:26] Yeah, I brought it over.

[00:05:27] So he brought his drum kit and didn't talk and set it up.

[00:05:31] Yep.

[00:05:31] That's five times more awkward than just walking over to.

[00:05:34] Okay.

[00:05:35] I was sitting on my couch, getting all anxious.

[00:05:38] I'm like, I don't know what's worse, this or a serial killer.

[00:05:41] Like at least, you know, the suspense.

[00:05:43] Like I was just like, what the hell?

[00:05:45] So he's like playing his drums or whatever.

[00:05:49] And I'm like, we, we, we jammed a little bit or whatever.

[00:05:54] And then he's like, we sat down on the couch and I'm like, I don't want to like be somebody

[00:06:00] who plays locally.

[00:06:01] Cause I really don't like the music scene much in New York.

[00:06:03] I was like, I want to be a touring band.

[00:06:05] And he was just like, okay.

[00:06:07] Like that was it.

[00:06:10] It was like, I finally got a word out of him of agreement.

[00:06:14] Easy enough.

[00:06:16] Yeah.

[00:06:18] So then we found our, at that time, bass player El Chivo.

[00:06:22] When was this, by the way, when you guys first hooked up?

[00:06:25] 2017.

[00:06:26] 2017?

[00:06:27] Yeah.

[00:06:28] Yeah.

[00:06:28] It's been a while.

[00:06:31] Where are you, Val, in New York?

[00:06:32] Where are you in the city?

[00:06:34] So I'm actually a little bit outside of the city.

[00:06:37] I left the city.

[00:06:39] I'm still there every day, but I'm like about 25 minutes North.

[00:06:45] Where?

[00:06:46] In Terry town, Halloween town.

[00:06:48] Oh, sleepy hollow.

[00:06:49] Nice.

[00:06:50] Sleepy hollow.

[00:06:50] Yep.

[00:06:51] I was just telling Dan before you got on that.

[00:06:52] I lived in New Rochelle for a while.

[00:06:54] Oh really?

[00:06:55] Yeah.

[00:06:55] Yeah.

[00:06:56] I went to Iona college for a couple of years outside, right out of high school.

[00:06:59] My, my grandparents lived in New Rochelle since I was a baby.

[00:07:02] So I would spend all my summers and my whole other family.

[00:07:05] My mother's side is all from throgs neck in the Bronx.

[00:07:08] Okay.

[00:07:09] So I used to spend my, I used to spend tons of times in throgs neck.

[00:07:12] Cause we're Greedo.

[00:07:12] I mean, I'm a hundred percent Italian.

[00:07:13] That's where the Italians are in throgs neck.

[00:07:16] Um,

[00:07:17] Oh yeah.

[00:07:17] The Bronx.

[00:07:18] Yeah.

[00:07:19] I'm happy to have you too.

[00:07:20] Okay.

[00:07:20] Cool.

[00:07:21] Yeah.

[00:07:21] Yeah.

[00:07:21] The good half.

[00:07:22] All my relatives grew up.

[00:07:23] Yeah.

[00:07:23] Yeah.

[00:07:24] Yeah.

[00:07:24] You know?

[00:07:24] Yeah.

[00:07:25] So.

[00:07:26] All right, cool.

[00:07:27] So Terry town.

[00:07:28] Yeah.

[00:07:28] And it's, uh, yeah.

[00:07:30] Sleepy hollow.

[00:07:31] I've been there.

[00:07:32] Awesome.

[00:07:32] It's great.

[00:07:33] Yeah.

[00:07:33] I love Halloween.

[00:07:34] So this is like, Oh, it's the best.

[00:07:36] When I left the city, I was like, I need to live somewhere that I can walk to everything

[00:07:40] and I enjoy it, you know?

[00:07:43] And it's a great, it's a great, beautiful there.

[00:07:44] Yeah.

[00:07:45] Nice.

[00:07:45] It's a real great town.

[00:07:46] There's, um, there's sleepy hollow.

[00:07:48] It's, this is a little, this is a little morbid, but it's also a fun fact about me.

[00:07:51] So during the pandemic, I decided to pick a cemetery where I wanted to be buried and

[00:07:56] there's sleepy hollow cemetery and they have a natural burial ground.

[00:08:00] So they just, so to be labeled natural, you have to be buried in either just the all

[00:08:06] pine box with no nails or a cotton shroud.

[00:08:09] And you, they just put you three feet down so the bugs can get you instead of six feet down

[00:08:14] or whatever.

[00:08:15] Um, so I live here and I didn't know that.

[00:08:18] Yeah.

[00:08:18] So I actually contacted, I contacted the sleepy hollow cemetery and asked them about plots

[00:08:23] and it's now it's my wife knows I'm going to write it into my will, but that's where

[00:08:27] I will be, uh, buried.

[00:08:29] Wow.

[00:08:30] Sleepy hollow cemetery.

[00:08:31] Just, and if you, uh, or a pumpkin beer on my grave in October, I will come and visit

[00:08:37] you.

[00:08:38] That'll be the legend.

[00:08:39] Anytime.

[00:08:40] Or anytime.

[00:08:41] Yeah.

[00:08:42] Anyway, I'm sorry.

[00:08:43] I'm sorry.

[00:08:44] I keep fucking up your story.

[00:08:45] Go ahead.

[00:08:45] So no, but that was it.

[00:08:47] We got El Chivo a couple months later who I had known long story and Dan had known and

[00:08:54] he was like a mutual person that we both accidentally knew.

[00:08:57] And, uh, he was with us for a really long time.

[00:08:59] Um, and, um, um, within the last year we lost him.

[00:09:04] And then Eddie, um, Topo, our league guitar player came in and it was like the best thing

[00:09:11] ever.

[00:09:12] And we also had a guy named Jerome, Adam bomb.

[00:09:15] He was with us for a while and he was great.

[00:09:18] Um, and he kind of left to do his own solo stuff.

[00:09:21] Um, and then we got cheeseburger Greg and it's just like, it's like a match made in fucking

[00:09:29] heaven.

[00:09:29] Now that's very recently.

[00:09:30] It's all just like, so yeah, it's.

[00:09:34] Yeah.

[00:09:35] Because even the bass player when you play with us is different than now, right?

[00:09:40] Like.

[00:09:40] Yeah.

[00:09:41] Yeah.

[00:09:41] We have cheeseburger.

[00:09:43] Yeah.

[00:09:43] Cheeseburger.

[00:09:44] Sweet.

[00:09:45] That was a long time.

[00:09:47] Yeah.

[00:09:48] That though, the space play you saw us when we played together, that was actually his

[00:09:51] last show with us.

[00:09:52] Yeah.

[00:09:53] Oh yeah.

[00:09:53] Yeah.

[00:09:54] It was in Baltimore.

[00:09:55] Yeah.

[00:09:57] Yeah.

[00:09:58] He saw that bass player for the blanks.

[00:10:00] He's like, fuck it.

[00:10:01] I can't do this anymore.

[00:10:04] I love nobody ever so much, Ron.

[00:10:08] Thank you.

[00:10:08] Thank you.

[00:10:08] I talked about you guys so much.

[00:10:10] I'm not just saying that because I love you and I love Justin.

[00:10:13] I know.

[00:10:14] I really like, you know, I love Ramone's core and I think you guys are so great.

[00:10:19] It was so cool to get to play with you guys.

[00:10:21] Yeah.

[00:10:22] It was cool to share that first night with you guys and dead in lane.

[00:10:24] It was a, it was fun.

[00:10:26] That was a really fun night.

[00:10:27] I love that night.

[00:10:27] Hell yeah.

[00:10:28] That was actually, I don't know.

[00:10:30] I can't speak for Val, but I can say when we were touring, that was my favorite night

[00:10:34] of the tour.

[00:10:35] Nice.

[00:10:36] That was our favorite night.

[00:10:37] All of us.

[00:10:38] Yeah.

[00:10:38] Hell yeah.

[00:10:39] It was a good night.

[00:10:41] That's, and that's, that was Baltimore.

[00:10:43] So that's saying a lot.

[00:10:44] So.

[00:10:45] Yeah.

[00:10:47] Not many people have their best nights in Baltimore.

[00:10:50] I've heard that.

[00:10:50] It's always like the bigger cities.

[00:10:53] A lot of people have their worst night in Baltimore.

[00:10:55] Yeah.

[00:10:56] I've heard that too, but I, I'd be curious to know the reasoning for it.

[00:11:01] It was good people that night.

[00:11:02] That makes all the difference.

[00:11:04] Mostly stabbings and shootings.

[00:11:07] You don't care.

[00:11:07] We live in New York.

[00:11:09] That's true.

[00:11:11] Yeah.

[00:11:12] Yeah.

[00:11:12] We call those Tuesdays.

[00:11:14] That's true.

[00:11:15] That's true.

[00:11:16] Yeah.

[00:11:20] What?

[00:11:21] So, so I'm always, we're always, we always ask this of everybody because we're, I love

[00:11:26] how, I love hearing how people get into punk rock for the first time.

[00:11:28] So do you guys remember the first time, like, how did you guys get into punk rock?

[00:11:33] Was there somebody, was there a sibling or a best friend that kind of like showed you

[00:11:37] this fucking killer album and who were kind of like the first couple of bands that you

[00:11:40] fell in love with?

[00:11:43] Um, I could speak from my story.

[00:11:45] I like, it's so weird how vividly I remember it, but I had this friend named Danny, a little

[00:11:51] skater guy from school.

[00:11:53] And I was like really into Nirvana and, and I was like going through my grunge era, my gateway

[00:11:59] drug.

[00:12:00] And, uh, Matt and I are the same.

[00:12:02] Yeah.

[00:12:02] Yeah.

[00:12:03] Oh yeah.

[00:12:03] Everybody starts with Nirvana.

[00:12:05] They're the gateway drug.

[00:12:07] Um, but he came over my house and he's like, I don't know why you feel like that's

[00:12:11] fucking listening to Nirvana.

[00:12:12] They suck.

[00:12:13] You should listen to punk rock.

[00:12:15] And I'm like, what?

[00:12:16] Like I knew the Ramones, you know, I knew like the basic, the sex pistols, the bigger

[00:12:20] bands.

[00:12:21] Um, and he had a seven seconds tape and he's like, check this out.

[00:12:26] And I listened to it.

[00:12:27] I was like, that's freaking bad-ass.

[00:12:29] And then he like started making me mix tapes of like all these different bands.

[00:12:34] And, uh, where I, I grew up in Florida.

[00:12:36] I grew up in St. Petersburg on the West coast.

[00:12:39] The one that just got hit by the hurricane.

[00:12:40] Yeah.

[00:12:41] That's, that's where I grew up on a beach, you know?

[00:12:45] And, uh, there were two places where everybody went, who was a punk and it was the state

[00:12:52] theater and the refuge.

[00:12:53] And, um, he took me to one of those shows and it was just like, it was literally like,

[00:12:59] it sounds corny, but it was like a whole world opened up to me.

[00:13:03] I was like, I felt understood.

[00:13:05] I, I love the music.

[00:13:07] I, I just, I love the people that everything that, that came along with it.

[00:13:12] And I was pretty young.

[00:13:13] I was like beginning high school at that time.

[00:13:16] And, uh, we went every weekend and, um, that's really like, it was my escape.

[00:13:22] You know, I grew up in kind of a messed up home.

[00:13:24] Like a lot of people I'm sure have.

[00:13:26] And going to punk shows was like a way to like, let everything out, you know?

[00:13:32] So I just fell in love with it.

[00:13:35] Nice.

[00:13:37] For me, um, I had a friend introduce me at the time.

[00:13:42] It was just like, I don't know, mid nineties, late nineties to introduce me to all of this

[00:13:46] music.

[00:13:47] Like my first, he like introduced me to like Blink, Green Day, Rancid, No Effects and

[00:13:53] all these bands.

[00:13:54] Um, so I heard about the music, but I didn't actually go to my first punk show until way

[00:13:59] later.

[00:14:00] And I would say at my first, the first punk show I ever went to was The Misfits.

[00:14:04] So The Misfits, when, with Jerry only, um, leaving the band.

[00:14:08] And that to me was, I would say.

[00:14:10] Oh, I'm sorry.

[00:14:12] What?

[00:14:13] Oh, well.

[00:14:16] No, it's, it's totally funny.

[00:14:17] No, it's, it's, it's funny.

[00:14:19] Cause for the Misfits as shitty as a person that what's his name is, Michael Graves is

[00:14:25] the worst version of The Misfits is the one where, with led by Jerry only.

[00:14:29] Cause.

[00:14:30] Oh, well.

[00:14:30] Yeah.

[00:14:32] And you're funny.

[00:14:33] But that's really cool.

[00:14:34] That's that.

[00:14:34] You couldn't help them when you went.

[00:14:36] You can't help them.

[00:14:37] Oh yeah.

[00:14:37] No, absolutely.

[00:14:37] And it was 20 bucks.

[00:14:38] It was 20 bucks going to see The Misfits.

[00:14:40] Yeah.

[00:14:41] Um, and I've seen it a few times, but the reason why, to me, that was the

[00:14:44] biggest moment.

[00:14:45] That was like my first, like my first punk moment was regardless of like what you think

[00:14:51] of like how good he was or from him.

[00:14:53] Like, obviously he's not Danzig or, well, I don't even want to talk about Michael Graves.

[00:15:01] This really stood out to me after the show.

[00:15:04] He stayed for like, about like an hour or so just greeting everybody.

[00:15:11] And like, is he like that?

[00:15:12] Yeah, he is.

[00:15:13] I always thought he was kind of a dick, but I had no reason to think that.

[00:15:16] I just, for some reason, I just thought that.

[00:15:17] No, Jerry only let everybody on stage.

[00:15:20] And like, he was so nice to everybody.

[00:15:22] And like, he like, kids on stage, like sing some songs with him.

[00:15:25] And like, and it was at a, it was like a small little theater.

[00:15:29] And to me, that was, I would say that that was my first real like punk rock moment.

[00:15:34] Because I really found out, okay, punk rock is about helping one another out.

[00:15:38] Not just, you know, being this like self-wrote asshole, lead singer, Michael Graves.

[00:15:46] Yeah.

[00:15:49] Since you brought up the Misfits, I want to say my favorite thing that pisses everybody off real quick.

[00:15:54] American Psycho is the greatest Misfits album of all time.

[00:15:57] Let that sink in.

[00:15:59] And let's continue with the interview.

[00:16:02] I love saying that.

[00:16:03] And I love saying it to Misfits fans.

[00:16:05] I do want to mention, when I was at the Misfits show, there was a big, giant, fuck Dan Zigg chant.

[00:16:11] Oh, really?

[00:16:13] Oh, yeah.

[00:16:13] Yeah, they were like, fuck you dancing.

[00:16:16] Fuck you dancing.

[00:16:17] Nice.

[00:16:19] Awesome.

[00:16:20] And now they reunited and it's like a hundred bucks to go see the Misfits and Misfits.

[00:16:24] Yeah.

[00:16:26] Yeah, I saw them where the Devils play a few years ago.

[00:16:29] I found a, I found a distant cousin of mine on Ancestry.com.

[00:16:34] And she was from LA and she's, she was like a third, she, she's actually my father's cousin.

[00:16:39] She's like a second cousin, but she's really into punk rock.

[00:16:42] And we went to go see the Misfits together in New Jersey.

[00:16:45] Cool.

[00:16:46] And that was with Dan Zigg and, you know.

[00:16:49] Matt, have you ever seen the Misfits?

[00:16:51] Yeah.

[00:16:52] Just not like the OG Misfits.

[00:16:54] Just the Michael Graves best version ever of the Misfits?

[00:16:58] With the Dary Only?

[00:16:59] Yeah, I saw the Michael Graves and the Dary Only version, but I never, yeah.

[00:17:07] I've never seen the Michael, I didn't see the Michael Graves version for, I don't know,

[00:17:11] for better or worse you guys, well, Matt, you'll tell me if it's for better or worse.

[00:17:14] But.

[00:17:15] I mean, they were really good live.

[00:17:17] I, I, I'm, I'm like, I don't know.

[00:17:20] I like the Michael Graves version, just not really too much him or whatever.

[00:17:25] I've met him a few times.

[00:17:26] My old band played with him a few times, but this was before all the shit went down.

[00:17:32] But like, I always say that if the Misfits, the Michael Graves Misfits weren't called

[00:17:37] the Misfits, everybody would have loved that band.

[00:17:39] Yes.

[00:17:39] The fact that they were called the Misfits kind of killed it for a lot of people.

[00:17:46] They were used to a certain thing.

[00:17:48] Yeah.

[00:17:48] If that was a whole new band, that would have been the second best fucking horror punk

[00:17:52] band of all time.

[00:17:53] Everybody would have loved them when they first came out, if they weren't called the Misfits.

[00:17:57] It's true.

[00:17:58] That is true.

[00:17:59] Yeah.

[00:18:00] But that's not how it went down.

[00:18:02] So it's not, it's not, what are you going to do?

[00:18:06] What are you going to do?

[00:18:07] Not what Michael Graves did.

[00:18:09] That's what.

[00:18:10] Oh yeah.

[00:18:12] It's funny.

[00:18:12] I saw an early version of, um, not version, but an episode of, um, Anthony Bourdain.

[00:18:19] What was that show that he used to do?

[00:18:21] The travel to different places.

[00:18:25] Was it, wasn't the show just his name?

[00:18:28] Oh no, it was called something.

[00:18:29] Wasn't it?

[00:18:30] Anyway, he would go to the, you know, you guys know Anthony Bourdain, right?

[00:18:33] The chef that recently committed suicide a couple of years back.

[00:18:37] But there was an episode, an early episode of that show where he would go to these places,

[00:18:42] different places and eat.

[00:18:43] And, uh, Michael Graves was with him the entire episode.

[00:18:46] They were like friends back in the day.

[00:18:48] Wow.

[00:18:48] It was hilarious.

[00:18:49] It was, it was right when Michael Graves started playing for the misfits.

[00:18:52] So he was like, you know, he had his fucking misfits hair and shit.

[00:18:55] It was wild.

[00:18:57] Yeah.

[00:18:58] Anyway, let's not talk about Michael Graves anymore.

[00:19:00] Um, all right.

[00:19:01] So, thanks.

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[00:20:03] What is the most memorable show?

[00:20:05] What's the most memorable Lousketeer show?

[00:20:07] And what's the most memorable show that you ever went to as a spectator?

[00:20:11] Except for the blank shows.

[00:20:12] I know that's both of your most memorable.

[00:20:14] That was a great show.

[00:20:15] I mean, that was definitely one of my favorite shows all year.

[00:20:18] Like, that was really fun.

[00:20:23] I really actually, like, I want to speak to, like, the latest lineup.

[00:20:28] And we've done a lot of, like, we've done a lot of stuff over the years and opened up for

[00:20:34] a lot of really amazing people.

[00:20:36] But I really, like, I think last week in Vermont, it was such a fun show.

[00:20:41] And it was with the new band.

[00:20:43] And it was just, like, we had a great crowd.

[00:20:46] And it wasn't, like, we've played in so many places.

[00:20:49] You know, it wasn't anything, like, super different.

[00:20:51] But it was just the energy of the show and us all being together and not making a whole lot of mistakes,

[00:20:58] which was nice.

[00:21:00] Nice.

[00:21:00] No, I mean, it's not like that happens all the time.

[00:21:03] But, I mean, it's punk rock.

[00:22:23] But I think it was that.

[00:22:26] I don't know.

[00:22:27] Like, as a spectator, there's so many levels of that.

[00:22:31] I think I've seen the queers more than any other band.

[00:22:35] I'm a huge queers fan.

[00:22:37] I know you guys recorded with Joe, too.

[00:22:39] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:22:40] And we got a chance to do that, which, to me, was like, I've been going to their show since I was, like, 14.

[00:22:45] And that was such a big deal to get to go down there, you know, because Joe is so awesome.

[00:22:51] And I look up to him.

[00:22:53] He's like the punk rock uncle, you know, that you wish you had.

[00:22:57] He's the nicest guy in the, you know, being in bands, doing the podcast, being promoters.

[00:23:03] Like, Matt and I are, like, of all the people that I've met in this business or this scene of punk rock,

[00:23:08] he is one of, if not the most gracious, nicest human being in the punk rock scene.

[00:23:15] It's true.

[00:23:16] Yeah.

[00:23:17] Punk rock is fantastic.

[00:23:18] There you go.

[00:23:19] Yeah.

[00:23:20] Yeah.

[00:23:21] He really is.

[00:23:22] Like, and that's so nice to see that.

[00:23:25] Joe Queer Bobblehead.

[00:23:27] Yes!

[00:23:28] Yes!

[00:23:29] I love it.

[00:23:31] He's just so, like, inspiring to me as a human being and as, like, a songwriter.

[00:23:38] And I love that he's still doing it and he's still touring and he has so much energy.

[00:23:45] I love his energy.

[00:23:46] You know he's 67?

[00:23:46] You know he's 67?

[00:23:47] I can't.

[00:23:48] I know.

[00:23:49] Isn't that crazy?

[00:23:50] You wouldn't think so when you hang out with him.

[00:23:52] And that's something that's really, I know this is, like, spiraling into something else, but I love that about this scene is, like, it feels like people don't age.

[00:24:00] Yeah.

[00:24:01] Like, nobody really gives in to, like, you know, what society thinks you should be at what age, you know?

[00:24:08] Right.

[00:24:08] And he was a person that I really took that from, among so many other things.

[00:24:14] But I have to say, I've been to fancy shows.

[00:24:18] I've been to Madison Square Garden.

[00:24:20] I've seen pyrotechnics.

[00:24:22] And I love a lot of different kinds of music.

[00:24:25] But I have to say, like, I love going to a queer show.

[00:24:28] I've seen them probably in the 40s, at least at this point.

[00:24:33] Because I love his music so much.

[00:24:35] It's nothing fantastic that he's doing.

[00:24:38] He's not jumping off the rafters.

[00:24:41] Yeah.

[00:24:41] But I just love the energy of it.

[00:24:43] I love the songs.

[00:24:44] It's nostalgic for me.

[00:24:46] Totally.

[00:24:48] So for me, I guess it would have to be them.

[00:24:51] Yeah.

[00:24:52] You know?

[00:24:54] My favorite part about the queers is that everybody that plays with Joe has to know every single queer song that's ever existed because they never do set lists.

[00:25:02] He just shouts the song out.

[00:25:04] You have to fucking know it immediately.

[00:25:05] I love it.

[00:25:06] That's fucking wild.

[00:25:07] Don't break, Peter.

[00:25:08] I know.

[00:25:09] One, two, three, four.

[00:25:10] Boom.

[00:25:11] Yeah.

[00:25:12] That's wild.

[00:25:13] It's so wild.

[00:25:14] You have three seconds to find that first fret.

[00:25:16] Yeah.

[00:25:18] And they're tight.

[00:25:19] I mean, it's so cool that he does that, you know?

[00:25:25] Yeah.

[00:25:25] What's yours, Dan?

[00:25:27] You know, okay.

[00:25:28] I hate the fact that Val just mentioned those two right now because those are going to be my answers.

[00:25:33] But I'll go more in detail about both.

[00:25:37] Um, so I have to say the last show in Vermont was amazing.

[00:25:43] And honestly, I can give my answer.

[00:25:45] But there's a video on YouTube right now that we just put up.

[00:25:49] And, um, there's a cover of this guy named, uh, Owen Manure.

[00:25:52] It's happy guy.

[00:25:52] And you could see the crowd there.

[00:25:56] You could see.

[00:25:57] It was like, I, for us, it was one of the bigger, the bigger, like it was, it was the people.

[00:26:02] There was about probably like 20 to 30 people there.

[00:26:04] But we were told that like, um, by the end of the end of the night, um, it's really hard to keep people.

[00:26:12] And the promoter told us that, um, we kept everybody there and everybody was dancing, having a good time.

[00:26:18] Hell yeah.

[00:26:19] And I think it was probably the biggest pit I've ever seen for us.

[00:26:23] Hell yeah.

[00:26:24] For, I don't know, maybe not, I don't know if it's the biggest battle.

[00:26:27] Maybe if there's another one, I can't remember because it's on so many shows.

[00:26:31] Dude, I'll take 20 to 30 Enerject people to 100 to 200 people just standing around any foot.

[00:26:37] Yeah, 100% agree.

[00:26:40] Yeah.

[00:26:40] Because we've seen everything, you know, we've seen when we started, we played to empty rooms, like literally empty rooms.

[00:26:49] I mean, we did so many things like, and, and then, you know, once we got out and, and started playing more and going back to the same places, that's how you meet people.

[00:27:02] Yeah.

[00:27:03] No.

[00:27:03] You know, and like, we go, like, I don't know what I love more playing or actually seeing the people.

[00:27:09] Like, I really love this community, you know?

[00:27:13] And like, I, I don't know.

[00:27:15] It's like hard.

[00:27:15] Cause I, every time we go, I'm like, oh yeah, we're playing too.

[00:27:18] And it's like, I'm just excited to like, see like Justin and, and Sarah and everybody that comes out to shows like from Maryland.

[00:27:27] We have our little pockets there.

[00:27:29] That's what gets me excited about going through the show or the Savage Mountain crew, you know?

[00:27:34] Like, yeah, it's a good crew.

[00:27:35] Yeah.

[00:27:35] Yeah.

[00:27:36] I mean, like we have our little pockets of people, but that came from going back over and over and meeting people and playing with the bands.

[00:27:44] And, you know, um, but that's my favorite part, you know?

[00:27:49] So I, Dan, I don't know if you, for your, uh, I don't know.

[00:27:56] As a spectator?

[00:27:57] Um, oh, as a spectator.

[00:28:00] All right.

[00:28:00] So I hate to say the queers because we already talked about them and we've been talking about them, but I love Joe.

[00:28:06] So, but I got to say, I actually, Val was the one that introduced me to the queers.

[00:28:10] So she gets 110% credit for introducing me to the queers.

[00:28:14] And, um, she was like, I really want to go see this band.

[00:28:18] I really want to go see this band.

[00:28:19] Yeah.

[00:28:20] And I saw that they were playing at the Chance Theater where I also saw the Mythbits.

[00:28:24] Okay.

[00:28:25] So I was like, all right, let's, let me see.

[00:28:27] I actually tried to get us to open for them.

[00:28:28] Like back in the pay to play days where we had to sell a bunch of tickets in the open, but unfortunately we couldn't, um, we couldn't get on a show.

[00:28:36] So we decided to go see them.

[00:28:38] So we saw them and I told Val after we see it, I thought they were great by the way.

[00:28:44] And when I saw them, by the way, before I get to this part of the story, I swear to you, when I heard the songs, I didn't know much of the songs I heard.

[00:28:50] Like she showed me like, like a parasite or something like little things, but I swear to you, I thought Joe clear with making songs up on the spot.

[00:28:56] Like I thought he would, I swear to God, I didn't have no idea.

[00:29:00] He would be like, this song is about Danny Vapen, one, two, three, four.

[00:29:03] This song is about 40.

[00:29:04] This song is about 40.

[00:29:05] One, two, three, four.

[00:29:07] And I swear to you, I thought that every song he was making up on the spot.

[00:29:12] I had no idea that these are, so I was like, but this, they were, they were fucking amazing.

[00:29:18] Um, but then after the show, um, we're leaving.

[00:29:23] And I was like, Val, sometimes, um, bands show up on the back in the back area of the chance.

[00:29:31] And long and behold, Joe clear with there.

[00:29:33] That's how we met him.

[00:29:35] Yeah.

[00:29:36] Before, like briefly when I had seen him, he always goes out and talks to everybody at shows, but I didn't like know him, you know?

[00:29:46] Um, and that was years ago and it was so cool that we had a chance to like talk to him and stuff.

[00:29:51] He's just so cool.

[00:29:52] And he's like, come record.

[00:29:53] I'm like, what?

[00:29:54] That was like my Madonna.

[00:29:56] Like I was like, oh my God.

[00:29:59] But he does it like for everybody.

[00:30:00] He's just like such a great guy, you know?

[00:30:03] Yeah.

[00:30:04] And we were just a band for like probably only a few months.

[00:30:07] And he's like, oh, you're new.

[00:30:08] You're really new.

[00:30:10] Yeah.

[00:30:11] Come to record.

[00:30:11] And I was like, what are the chances like of that happening to me?

[00:30:15] I was just like, we go to see a show and it's like, oh yeah, let's come record.

[00:30:18] Like, so that to me is probably as a spectator mind.

[00:30:22] All right.

[00:30:22] I'm going to ask you these three, four questions.

[00:30:24] Sorry.

[00:30:25] That we ask every guest on the show.

[00:30:28] Okay.

[00:30:29] A couple of them are music related.

[00:30:31] A couple of them are not.

[00:30:31] So the first question is, if you were on death row, what would your final meal be?

[00:30:39] You could have anything you want to eat.

[00:30:41] It's your final meal.

[00:30:42] You're about to get assassinated.

[00:30:44] However you want.

[00:30:44] I would personally pick firing squad.

[00:30:46] You know, that's a whole other question though.

[00:30:48] But imagine any restaurant, any meal you've ever had is available to you.

[00:30:55] What's your final meal?

[00:30:57] Give me sesame chicken.

[00:30:58] Give me Chinese food.

[00:30:59] Chinese food, sesame chicken.

[00:31:01] Sesame chicken is pretty good.

[00:31:03] It's pretty good.

[00:31:05] I don't eat meat.

[00:31:06] I don't eat.

[00:31:36] True.

[00:31:37] No, they're shit.

[00:31:39] Anything in particular?

[00:31:43] Alu, Gabi, Matar.

[00:31:45] I probably like completely butchered that.

[00:31:50] I have no idea what that is, but Matt might.

[00:31:55] It's like chickpeas and potato on rice.

[00:31:58] Oh man, it's so good.

[00:32:00] And it's got all the spices that they use in it.

[00:32:02] It's so good.

[00:32:03] I do know what you're talking about.

[00:32:05] And it is very good.

[00:32:07] Oh man.

[00:32:09] Yeah.

[00:32:09] Hell yeah.

[00:32:10] That's what I do.

[00:32:12] All right.

[00:32:12] Cool.

[00:32:13] Good choice.

[00:32:13] Good choice.

[00:32:14] Yeah.

[00:32:14] That is a good choice.

[00:32:16] Plus it can be very messy afterwards.

[00:32:20] Yeah.

[00:32:20] So you might need to get for them.

[00:32:23] Well, it doesn't matter.

[00:32:24] I'll be dead.

[00:32:25] No.

[00:32:26] We don't have to deal with that shit.

[00:32:28] That's right.

[00:32:28] Yeah.

[00:32:29] I was going to say, that shit is going to go right through me.

[00:32:31] So you know what?

[00:32:31] If it's my last meal, go out with a fucking bank.

[00:32:35] Yeah.

[00:32:36] That was the first time I ever answered this question.

[00:32:39] I said, whatever's going to make the biggest mess afterwards for them to clean up.

[00:32:42] Yeah.

[00:32:42] Along with my dead body.

[00:32:43] Yeah.

[00:32:45] Right.

[00:32:46] The perfect answer.

[00:32:47] Yeah.

[00:32:47] Yeah.

[00:32:49] All right.

[00:32:49] Second question is kind of along the same.

[00:32:52] What is your favorite cereal?

[00:32:57] Everyone has one.

[00:32:58] Yeah.

[00:32:59] I don't eat a lot of cereal, but I could tell you what I liked as a kid.

[00:33:04] Yeah.

[00:33:04] Or if, I mean, you know, granola can be an answer too.

[00:33:07] No, you remember.

[00:33:08] It can be, but it's not the right answer.

[00:33:10] Remember Count Chocula?

[00:33:12] Do I remember Count Chocula?

[00:33:14] Yeah, of course.

[00:33:14] What?

[00:33:15] Who are you talking to?

[00:33:16] Do we remember?

[00:33:16] That's like asking Matt and I if we remember oxygen.

[00:33:19] Oh, man.

[00:33:21] You guys remember oxygen or water?

[00:33:23] That was like kid, dude.

[00:33:25] That was like kid crack.

[00:33:27] Yeah.

[00:33:28] Like that shit was like.

[00:33:30] I have a little bit of a blueberry in my cabinet right now that I haven't touched yet for Halloween.

[00:33:33] You have blueberry?

[00:33:34] Yeah.

[00:33:34] I always get all of them.

[00:33:36] Yeah.

[00:33:36] I have blueberry and I have like, yeah.

[00:33:40] Matt, I don't fuck around with it.

[00:33:41] We asked this question because it's fucking important.

[00:33:44] Oh, yeah.

[00:33:44] It's very important.

[00:33:47] Fucking count Chocula, man.

[00:33:49] Oh, man.

[00:33:51] That stuff is like, it's literally like crack.

[00:33:54] Yeah.

[00:33:56] Well, before I answer my, I'm surprised Val, you didn't say frosted flakes because it's Tony the Tiger.

[00:34:03] Oh, the Tony the Tiger story.

[00:34:06] Well, a quick little side story if you care to hear it.

[00:34:09] Yeah, do it.

[00:34:10] So when I was a kid, I was just telling the guys this when we were on a weekend show or something that when I was a kid, I had a crush on Tony the Tiger.

[00:34:21] I actually legit had, I was like a furry.

[00:34:25] Like, I don't know.

[00:34:27] Like before that shit even came out, like I brought that shit.

[00:34:32] And I had a huge crush.

[00:34:33] I thought Tony the Tiger was hot.

[00:34:35] He was like a muscular tiger.

[00:34:37] He's pretty hot.

[00:34:38] Cover of all the cereal boxes.

[00:34:39] I was like, I'm going to marry Tony the Tiger.

[00:34:42] Hell yeah.

[00:34:42] When I was a kid, like I really thought like this cartoon man was going to marry me.

[00:34:48] And so I decided to write Tony the Tiger a letter.

[00:34:53] And I wrote him like this big love letter about like how frosted flakes made my life and how important he was to me.

[00:35:04] And my grandma mailed it to frosted flakes.

[00:35:09] And they sent me back this huge box of like Tony the Tiger paraphernalia.

[00:35:16] Nice.

[00:35:17] Everywhere.

[00:35:18] And it was like, love Tony.

[00:35:19] I'm like, oh my God.

[00:35:22] Nice.

[00:35:25] Tony the Tiger thinks this story is great.

[00:35:35] It's fucking awesome.

[00:35:37] So yeah, frosted flakes a second, close second.

[00:35:40] See, this is why we asked the cereal question because it always makes conversation.

[00:35:45] We added this one.

[00:35:45] Always.

[00:35:46] Every time.

[00:35:47] Do you remember the frosted flakes competition from the late 80s, early 90s?

[00:35:52] No.

[00:35:53] So they, so frosted flakes or I guess Kellogg's ran this promo where if they would send Tony

[00:36:02] the Tiger to random people's houses and if they had a box of frosted flakes in their house,

[00:36:09] they would win all this.

[00:36:10] They would win this.

[00:36:11] I don't know, money or something.

[00:36:13] But right now, am I?

[00:36:14] Did I dream that?

[00:36:15] That was a thing.

[00:36:16] That was a thing.

[00:36:16] That's a thing.

[00:36:17] Because I remember trying to convince my mom that we needed frosted flakes because of it,

[00:36:21] because she would never buy me junk cereal.

[00:36:23] Yeah.

[00:36:23] Yeah.

[00:36:24] Yeah.

[00:36:24] Just written them a letter.

[00:36:26] Yeah.

[00:36:26] Yeah.

[00:36:26] So you could have, if you would have kept the frosted flakes in your house,

[00:36:29] you might have been able to meet Tony the Tiger.

[00:36:33] Yeah.

[00:36:35] Oh, man.

[00:36:35] I wish I had a good cereal story.

[00:36:37] But I gotta say for me, it's probably like Fruity Pebbles or something.

[00:36:42] But I wish I had a story.

[00:36:43] I don't know.

[00:36:44] The winner.

[00:36:49] The winner.

[00:36:50] The winning question.

[00:36:51] There is a right answer to this question.

[00:36:53] And you got it right.

[00:36:54] The best cereal in the world is Fruity Pebbles.

[00:36:56] There you go.

[00:36:58] It is Fruity Pebbles.

[00:36:59] All right.

[00:37:00] Awesome.

[00:37:01] Yeah.

[00:37:01] You just warmed Ron's Italian heart.

[00:37:03] Fuck yeah.

[00:37:05] All right.

[00:37:05] This third question, this is where it gets hard.

[00:37:08] So now these last two questions are difficult.

[00:37:11] So what science, this actually happens nowadays.

[00:37:14] So if you decide to get cremated when you pass away,

[00:37:18] they have this process where they could take your ashes

[00:37:20] and actually form it into a vinyl record of your choice.

[00:37:23] So if you were going to have your ashes eternalized in an album,

[00:37:28] which album would you pick?

[00:37:29] And it has to be one that exists.

[00:37:31] You can't just make up some crazy compilation of songs.

[00:37:34] So which album would you choose to eternalize your ashes in?

[00:37:39] This is worse than the cereal question.

[00:37:42] This is 10 times worse than the cereal.

[00:37:43] Because the cereal question takes one second to say Fruity Pebbles.

[00:37:47] Then you're right.

[00:37:47] That's it.

[00:37:49] Just wait for the next question.

[00:37:51] We can't mention our own band.

[00:37:53] It could be your own album, as long as it isn't a record that exists.

[00:37:57] But lots of people have chosen some of their own records

[00:38:00] or one of their own records.

[00:38:01] Yeah.

[00:38:02] I think the winner of this question so far is,

[00:38:07] what's his name from fucking Strung Out, right?

[00:38:09] Jake.

[00:38:09] Yeah, Jake.

[00:38:10] Jake Strung Out.

[00:38:11] Yep.

[00:38:11] There was the soundtrack to Miami Vice on vinyl.

[00:38:14] Like, yeah.

[00:38:19] Yeah, I didn't think about soundtracks.

[00:38:21] That was harder.

[00:38:23] That was the craziest slash best.

[00:38:25] Yeah.

[00:38:26] That still stands as the best answer to this question.

[00:38:33] I'll say The Queers Don't Back Down.

[00:38:38] Good choice.

[00:38:39] I think that's my favorite Queers album, too, actually.

[00:38:42] It's a great album.

[00:38:43] Yeah.

[00:38:44] I think that's the first time a Queers record has been chosen for this.

[00:38:48] I think you're right.

[00:38:49] I could be wrong.

[00:38:51] I think you're right, though.

[00:38:52] Yeah.

[00:38:54] Wow.

[00:38:54] Yeah.

[00:38:54] Oddly enough.

[00:38:55] Yeah.

[00:38:56] Wow.

[00:38:57] Matt, what's yours?

[00:38:58] We haven't done ours in a long time.

[00:38:59] These are still...

[00:39:00] Well, you know, it can change from time to time, but...

[00:39:04] Just give a hand more time to think.

[00:39:07] Yeah.

[00:39:08] I mean, one that always pops in my head immediately,

[00:39:11] because, you know, I'm a lifelong Virginian,

[00:39:14] and Avail is from Richmond, and I love Avail.

[00:39:17] So, like, Over the James or 4 a.m. Friday, one of those two.

[00:39:21] Yeah.

[00:39:21] But right now, it would probably be Over the James.

[00:39:25] Okay.

[00:39:26] 4 a.m. Friday is my favorite.

[00:39:28] Yeah.

[00:39:28] They're both great.

[00:39:29] You can't go wrong with either of them.

[00:39:31] I think the first time I did this, 4 a.m. Friday was my choice.

[00:39:34] But...

[00:39:35] Even Dixie.

[00:39:36] Dixie is, like...

[00:39:37] Yeah, Dixie's good, too.

[00:39:38] Dixie is so good.

[00:39:39] But, yeah.

[00:39:39] But, yeah, Over the James, to me, is, like, almost a perfect record.

[00:39:45] Yeah.

[00:39:45] Yeah.

[00:39:46] I always go Michael Jackson Thriller, because that...

[00:39:48] Yeah, it's a good one.

[00:39:49] Oh, wow.

[00:39:50] That was when I fell in love with music as a kid.

[00:39:52] That was my first concert.

[00:39:54] It was the Jackson 5.

[00:39:56] And...

[00:39:56] Yeah.

[00:39:58] So good.

[00:39:58] That was a great album.

[00:40:00] Yeah.

[00:40:01] Putting aside his extracurriculars.

[00:40:06] You know...

[00:40:07] All right.

[00:40:07] I thought of mine.

[00:40:08] And, again, this is a hard question, because it could always change tomorrow.

[00:40:11] Oh, yeah.

[00:40:12] We get it all.

[00:40:13] So many times we'll have a guest on, and they'll email me or Matt and be like,

[00:40:16] I should have said this.

[00:40:18] Yeah.

[00:40:18] The next day, but, yeah.

[00:40:21] So, I'll give you two.

[00:40:22] Okay.

[00:40:23] I'll give you two.

[00:40:25] Well, actually, no.

[00:40:26] I can't even give you one, because it's not even out yet.

[00:40:27] So, never mind.

[00:40:28] I was going to say there's an upcoming album that we're making right now,

[00:40:31] called Sayonara, dude.

[00:40:33] It is going to be, I think, is our greatest work yet.

[00:40:37] But...

[00:40:38] So, I would have said that, but...

[00:40:41] You could change your will once it comes out, but give me the...

[00:40:43] Yeah.

[00:40:43] So, that will be the answer once it comes out.

[00:40:46] But until then, it was...

[00:40:48] Because this comes with a story.

[00:40:50] I had a really great karaoke night in Florida.

[00:40:55] When we were in 4.

[00:40:57] Or I did a little karaoke, the old Dirty Bastard.

[00:41:00] Nice.

[00:41:02] Yes.

[00:41:03] It was one of my finest moments ever on off-time.

[00:41:07] You got it on video.

[00:41:09] Fuck yeah.

[00:41:10] It's hilarious.

[00:41:11] Hell yeah.

[00:41:12] I'm going to say Enter the 36 Chambers by Wu-Tang.

[00:41:15] Oh, so fucking good.

[00:41:16] That's my favorite hip-hop album of all time.

[00:41:18] Yeah, it's my favorite.

[00:41:19] Oh, man.

[00:41:20] Fuck yeah.

[00:41:22] That's the first time that album has been an answer, I think.

[00:41:26] Damn.

[00:41:28] All right.

[00:41:29] I think there might have been a Wu-Tang answer to this, but I don't know if it was that album.

[00:41:34] Who would have picked a different Wu-Tang album than that?

[00:41:36] It might have been that album, but I'm pretty sure there was one person who said Wu-Tang for this answer.

[00:41:42] For Triumph, maybe?

[00:41:43] I mean, that's a good album.

[00:41:44] I just...

[00:41:45] It might have been Taff, actually.

[00:41:47] Oh, okay.

[00:41:49] It might have been.

[00:41:50] I don't know.

[00:41:50] But again, like I said, this answer could change tomorrow.

[00:41:53] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:41:55] Great answer.

[00:41:56] Those are my two.

[00:41:57] Those are my two.

[00:41:58] Nice.

[00:41:59] All right.

[00:41:59] Final question.

[00:42:00] Who is on your Mount Rushmore of punk rock?

[00:42:03] And we give you five instead of four, because you get a crazy horse, too.

[00:42:07] So five people who you would put on your Mount Rushmore of punk rock.

[00:42:13] Ooh.

[00:42:14] Five?

[00:42:14] Yeah.

[00:42:15] Anybody.

[00:42:16] Like, we say punk rock, but really, like, this just really stems all music to who you consider.

[00:42:22] Yeah, we've had punk some, you know?

[00:42:24] Yeah.

[00:42:24] For mine, definitely Joe Queer.

[00:42:28] That's fine.

[00:42:30] Kim Shattuck from The Muffs.

[00:42:32] Nice.

[00:42:33] A big must.

[00:42:34] R.I.P.

[00:42:34] Yeah, R.I.P.

[00:42:36] Oh, yeah.

[00:42:37] Man, I loved her.

[00:42:39] Brody Doll from The Distillers.

[00:42:42] Hell, yeah.

[00:42:43] Joey Ramone.

[00:42:45] Oh, Brian Wilson, The Beach Boys.

[00:42:48] All right.

[00:42:48] Nice.

[00:42:49] Nice.

[00:42:49] Yeah.

[00:42:50] That's a solid fucking.

[00:42:51] Even though he's not punk rock, I'm a huge fan of old music.

[00:42:55] And I said Richie Valens, too, because we're actually in another band called Going Unsteady,

[00:43:01] where we do pop punk Scott twists on old songs like Richie Valens and all those old,

[00:43:08] the drifters and everybody.

[00:43:10] I love old music.

[00:43:12] Love old music.

[00:43:14] You know, Brian Wilson and Richie Valens could both kind of be considered punk from their

[00:43:18] day and age.

[00:43:19] Yeah.

[00:43:20] Yeah.

[00:43:20] A hundred percent.

[00:43:22] Well, they inspired a lot of the Ramones.

[00:43:24] I mean, it was kind of just sped up old music, you know?

[00:43:27] Oh, yeah.

[00:43:29] So there's like a connection there.

[00:43:31] I love music that makes you feel good, you know?

[00:43:35] Yep.

[00:43:36] I was listening to the Beach Boys when I was a kid and I loved them.

[00:43:41] I just love them.

[00:43:43] I'm not like a huge like later Beach Boys fan as much as the earlier stuff.

[00:43:48] Oh, yeah.

[00:43:49] Oh, yeah.

[00:43:49] Like.

[00:43:50] Yeah.

[00:43:50] Not the John Stamos Beach Boys, but like the Charles Manson Beach Boys.

[00:43:55] Yeah.

[00:43:55] The Charles Manson Beach Boys.

[00:43:56] Uncle Jesse.

[00:43:57] Uncle Jesse.

[00:43:57] Uncle Jesse.

[00:43:57] Yeah.

[00:43:58] Yeah.

[00:43:58] Not the Uncle Jesse.

[00:43:59] Yeah.

[00:43:59] The Charles Manson ones.

[00:44:00] It's got to be the Charles Manson ones.

[00:44:02] Hell yeah.

[00:44:06] You know, also that might be the quickest anyone has singly answered that question.

[00:44:11] Yes.

[00:44:12] Hard.

[00:44:13] Yeah.

[00:44:13] Yeah.

[00:44:13] It's definitely the quickest best.

[00:44:15] But I always think like we get asked in a lot of interviews, like who are your influences?

[00:44:20] And those are always the people that come to mind.

[00:44:22] Yeah.

[00:44:23] And I think you hear a lot of that in our sound.

[00:44:25] There's like a mix of a lot of different things there.

[00:44:29] Hell yeah.

[00:44:30] All right.

[00:44:32] My five.

[00:44:33] So I'm sharing two, but I thought that the other three are different.

[00:44:36] So I'm sharing Joe Queer.

[00:44:39] Okay.

[00:44:39] And I'm sharing Joey Ramon.

[00:44:40] Because I feel like it's something.

[00:44:42] Ramon.

[00:44:43] We're from New York.

[00:44:44] Yeah.

[00:44:44] Oh, hell yeah.

[00:44:45] Those answers have been a lot.

[00:44:47] Which is cool.

[00:44:48] You know, because obviously like.

[00:44:49] Yeah.

[00:44:51] So I'm going to pick Joe Ramon.

[00:44:53] I'm picking Joe Queer for obvious reasons.

[00:44:54] We just talked about that.

[00:44:56] I'm picking Danzig.

[00:44:58] All right.

[00:44:59] Go ahead.

[00:45:00] Go ahead.

[00:45:00] Listen, I love the message.

[00:45:02] To me, they're on my top five favorite.

[00:45:06] I'm putting another Ramon on there.

[00:45:08] I'm putting Richie Ramon.

[00:45:10] Oh, nice.

[00:45:11] Richie.

[00:45:12] Yeah.

[00:45:13] I saw him live and I never got to see Ramon's, but I got to see my favorite Ramon and Richie.

[00:45:19] And I actually remembered a podcast.

[00:45:21] I was listening to your podcast and he said it influenced me as a drummer.

[00:45:25] One of the best things when really makes a good drummer is if they have hands like Buddy

[00:45:30] Rich and if they have feet like John Bonham.

[00:45:33] That's like the like one that's that pretty much is like the perfect drummer.

[00:45:36] And I remember that from listening to your podcast.

[00:45:39] Awesome.

[00:45:39] And I was like, you know what?

[00:45:42] He's right.

[00:45:42] He's 100% right there.

[00:45:44] And he's 100% the best Ramon's drummer of all time.

[00:45:47] So I think he's the most creative one.

[00:45:49] I don't even think it's close.

[00:45:50] Yeah.

[00:45:52] So he was the only drummer I think that wrote for the band too.

[00:45:55] So he brought, I think their best records were with him.

[00:45:59] That's when Bonzo goes to Blitzford.

[00:46:00] That's like my favorite Ramon song.

[00:46:04] Yeah.

[00:46:04] That's actually probably my favorite Ramon song too.

[00:46:07] And Richie signed my bass too.

[00:46:08] Richie Ramon signed my bass right there.

[00:46:10] Yeah.

[00:46:10] Hell yeah.

[00:46:13] Somebody put something in my drink.

[00:46:14] Like pretty much all his songs.

[00:46:16] Like I, yeah, every, I just think that band took a 180 for like the better once Richie

[00:46:21] joined.

[00:46:22] But Joey said that he saved the band.

[00:46:25] Yeah.

[00:46:27] Like he, he, he shot at this energy into the band that they had that they needed at that

[00:46:32] time.

[00:46:33] Really, you know, really bad.

[00:46:35] And, um, he credits, he, I mean, he credits Richie to saving the Ramon's.

[00:46:40] So, you know.

[00:46:42] So, yeah.

[00:46:43] So we got Dan, Dick, Joe Queer, Joey, Richie, and fuck that.

[00:46:47] I'm just going to put old Dirty Bass up there just for that.

[00:46:52] That's great.

[00:46:52] We need something random, completely up there, not related to anything.

[00:46:58] That dude's punk as fuck, dude.

[00:47:00] Yeah, exactly.

[00:47:01] Eddie Bass is punk as fuck.

[00:47:03] 100%.

[00:47:03] Yeah.

[00:47:04] But like, I don't know if you remember the MTV thing back in the day, MTV news, whatever

[00:47:09] that was, where he took his like 13 kids.

[00:47:12] I thought it was 13, 15 kids.

[00:47:13] He put them on a live.

[00:47:15] And they're all, but, but with, for a different, with different women, by the way, not that it

[00:47:18] was, but I think.

[00:47:19] Yeah.

[00:47:21] And they put them on a limousine, um, to go buy food stamps from the, go get food stamps

[00:47:26] from the government.

[00:47:27] Oh yeah.

[00:47:28] And you can look it up on YouTube.

[00:47:30] It was, cause it was broadcasted too.

[00:47:32] Yeah.

[00:47:32] Yeah.

[00:47:35] So there you go.

[00:47:36] His first solo album was his, it was just a picture of his food stamp, fucking his ID,

[00:47:40] his.

[00:47:41] Yep.

[00:47:41] Yeah.

[00:47:42] Oh yeah.

[00:47:43] That dude was fucking, that dude was so good.

[00:47:46] Yeah.

[00:47:47] It's such a fucking like talent too.

[00:47:49] Like, I mean, people, you know, they laugh at his lyrics and shit cause they're, they're,

[00:47:53] they're kind of goofy, but he was fucking smart as fuck.

[00:47:57] And he, his lyrics are fucking insanely good.

[00:48:01] Insanely good.

[00:48:02] Like let everybody know where they could find you on all the socials and the interwebs and

[00:48:08] all that fun stuff.

[00:48:09] All right.

[00:48:10] We're on Instagram, Facebook.

[00:48:14] Uh, what is that?

[00:48:16] Well, I'm just, it just popped out of my, what was that?

[00:48:19] Van camp.

[00:48:20] Van camp.

[00:48:21] But no, it's just, you're, you're, you control this most of the time.

[00:48:24] I forgot.

[00:48:25] It just popped out of my brain.

[00:48:30] It's like all the funny stuff.

[00:48:33] Cool.

[00:48:34] YouTube.

[00:48:35] Napster.

[00:48:36] I heard one time we're on Napster.

[00:48:38] So I was like, I can't believe that's still a thing.

[00:48:40] Yeah.

[00:48:41] I don't, I thought so too.

[00:48:42] I thought that through wasn't around, but apparently it is around.

[00:48:46] Apparently we're on there.

[00:48:48] Nice.

[00:48:50] But, uh, yeah.

[00:48:51] So pretty much everywhere.

[00:48:52] Spotify, any, pretty much anywhere.

[00:48:53] If it's not been lost here, she'll, the whole list will pop up.

[00:48:57] We have a website.

[00:48:58] Go right there.

[00:48:59] It gives you links to everything.

[00:49:01] Awesome.

[00:49:03] I'll add all the links to the bottom of the podcast.

[00:49:05] This will be out tomorrow night ish.

[00:49:07] Tomorrow night, probably around like nine, 10 ish.

[00:49:10] Um, yeah.

[00:49:11] And I'll tag you guys when I post it all over social media and all that good

[00:49:14] stuff.

[00:49:15] Um, yeah.

[00:49:17] Um, yeah.

[00:49:18] Thanks guys.

[00:49:19] Thanks so much for doing this.

[00:49:20] I'm glad you're finding out to hang out.

[00:49:21] Yeah.

[00:49:22] It's nice to meet both of you as well.

[00:49:24] Yeah.

[00:49:24] When are you guys playing again, Ron?

[00:49:27] Uh, we're playing December 7th.

[00:49:29] So three weeks from today, actually, uh, at the pie shop in DC with the

[00:49:33] Jason's, the Huntington's, uh, beatnik termites.

[00:49:37] Oh, yeah.

[00:49:39] Yeah.

[00:49:40] All those bands.

[00:49:41] It's our annual holiday bash.

[00:49:43] Yes.

[00:49:44] It's our brains hurt annual holiday show.

[00:49:45] We do it every year and the Jason's are always a part of it.

[00:49:48] And, um, we always take a picture with their asses and make Christmas

[00:49:52] cards out of it.

[00:49:53] So, um, yeah.

[00:49:54] They love to show their asses.

[00:49:56] They'll show all of it if you let them.

[00:49:58] Yes.

[00:50:01] And then the next Saturday, December 14th, we're playing up in Asbury

[00:50:04] Park, uh, with, uh, uh, Burt Mill Ghosts and a couple other bands, I

[00:50:10] think.

[00:50:11] So, yeah.

[00:50:13] So, yeah.

[00:50:15] But yeah.

[00:50:16] So I'll try to see you guys in February for sure.

[00:50:19] And thanks so much for doing this.

[00:50:21] Oh, thank you.

[00:50:23] Yeah.

[00:50:24] Yeah, of course.

[00:50:25] And I will tag you when we post this tomorrow night.

[00:50:28] Cool.

[00:50:29] Thanks so much, guys.

[00:50:31] Thank you.

[00:50:32] Been very nice meeting both of you as well.

[00:50:34] You too.

[00:50:35] All right.

[00:50:35] Thank you.

[00:50:36] Later, guys.

[00:53:26] Leave before someone finds out.

[00:53:28] Oh, we eat it.

[00:54:20] I can still hear you.

[00:54:21] Uh, so what do I have to press?

[00:54:25] Close.