Daniel James Hangs Out for #200

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[00:01:30] So we wrote them a jingle and it sounded really great

[00:01:32] It was the best little jingle that their pockets ever had

[00:01:35] But the file got corrupted and the email didn't work

[00:01:37] Now they're stuck without a jingle singing Our Brains Hurt

[00:01:40] Our Brains Hurt

[00:02:01] In a very non copyright infringing sort of way

[00:02:05] My favorite sleeveless shirt on tonight

[00:02:10] The nuns

[00:02:11] Yeah, but it's, nuns gone wild

[00:02:15] Shout out Nick Murray

[00:02:17] Yeah

[00:02:19] One of the only motherfuckers who actually put a band together

[00:02:23] Thank you

[00:02:25] Nick and our three other friends who did

[00:02:28] This is going to go against ever getting a sponsored by founders

[00:02:33] The Headless Gordzman

[00:02:38] No, not good, huh?

[00:02:40] Possibly the worst thing I ever put in my mouth

[00:02:43] Well, you know, they can't all be winners

[00:02:46] They can't all be winners. I don't know what it's so bad. It is so bad

[00:02:49] But to also shout out the founders

[00:02:53] I have to wash it down with a founders breakfast

[00:02:55] I have to keep trying it because it's so bad that I feel like I'm

[00:03:00] Wait, are pumpkin beers already arriving?

[00:03:04] It's only May

[00:03:06] This is an old bottled on 629.23

[00:03:09] So this is bottled almost a year ago

[00:03:12] Maybe you should give like a freshie a chance

[00:03:15] Yeah, I will. I mean, of course I will

[00:03:17] And it's also like

[00:03:19] I've noticed this year more than any other year

[00:03:23] And this could be because I've been drinking more this year than any other year

[00:03:26] So I've been at liquor stores more

[00:03:28] But I've definitely noticed like I was at a liquor store on the way to practice band practice on Sunday

[00:03:33] And I stopped and there was a case of um

[00:03:36] Punkin ale from a dog dogfish

[00:03:40] I see there's a lot of pumpkin beers that are still on shelves from yeah

[00:03:44] I've noticed that too. Yeah, not a ton here, but there is some

[00:03:48] Yeah, yeah almost every liquor store I go into they'll be like one at least one

[00:03:53] And it's usually I see a lot of a warlock

[00:03:58] Mm-hmm

[00:04:00] And and pumpkin I think maybe they got super popular and people over ordered them. Maybe oh, yeah

[00:04:06] That's exactly what I thought I was like even during the pumpkin beer season. I was like man

[00:04:13] All these stores really went hardcore pumpkin. Yeah, even like grocery stores and stuff went like hardcore

[00:04:19] Yeah, we don't have beer stores and the People's Republic of Maryland

[00:04:26] I mean whatever our hard liquor state-controlled. So what can we really say?

[00:04:31] Right. I did however right before we went camping for my birthday

[00:04:38] Get my hands on another bottle of that really really nice Hendrix that came out. Oh nice. Oh man

[00:04:45] There's not even a question that it's the best gin that I've ever had not nice

[00:04:49] Yeah, like it's it's like that good

[00:04:52] Like you can just pour it into a glass with ice and sip on it and just be and just be completely content

[00:04:58] It's like its own mixed drink just straight fucking. I don't know just

[00:05:04] Why are 12 ounce cans still a thing like just do 16 ounce can

[00:05:09] Yeah, I kind of agree. Why yeah, especially in beer

[00:05:11] Yeah, especially in beer like who why the fuck would you grab a 12 ounce can if you can grab a tall boys shotgun

[00:05:16] And the only reason I guess though because like shotgun and a 12 ounces cool shotgun and a 16 ounce while cool really cool

[00:05:23] It's just it's also kind of awkward

[00:05:27] Yeah straddles that cool slash I have a problem line

[00:05:33] I mean when you get to the world like shotgun and 16 ounces you're you're in this for competition now, you know

[00:05:38] I've never seen anybody shotgun a fucking tall boy. That's how I've done

[00:05:43] Next time we got the pie shop those PBRs Paul boy peepers again fucking shotgun

[00:05:50] Tonight we're talking to Daniel James he's been in the waiting room for a couple minutes. Oh, okay. Yeah, so he's got

[00:05:56] Well, we'll talk to him. He'll tell you what he's got

[00:05:59] Yeah, so do we were just talking about how we had you on last time you were on was July 31st 2022

[00:06:04] You've done so since then you you Indonesian junk is no longer

[00:06:09] I'm correct. Yeah, but but you have other things going on. Yeah, kind of or yeah explain

[00:06:15] Explain yourself sir. Well, well the Indonesian junk thing

[00:06:19] Well, we were working on our next album and I think I think like yeah Mike and Johnny were just like

[00:06:25] Not really wanting to do it, you know

[00:06:27] I think we're just like we've been doing that same band for so long and like, you know

[00:06:32] I'm like the main focus or like person that bands like everyone's like

[00:06:36] We want to do other bands and stuff and so like we kind of broke up

[00:06:40] I know I guess we are but then I started like working on the solo stuff

[00:06:43] But basically right as I was finishing like getting all the solo stuff mixed Johnny's like new band kind of fell apart

[00:06:50] So he's playing live in the Daniel James gang

[00:06:54] So cool, and so we're doing like half Indonesian junk half Daniel James getting stuff on the side

[00:06:58] which was kind of the plan anyway, cuz it was like just kind of like complaining about how his new band wasn't

[00:07:04] Working out and I was like, well, you know half my son already

[00:07:10] They like the Daniel James gang is like a perfect name coming out of yeah Indonesian junk too. Yeah makes sense

[00:07:17] I've used the name before actually that I put out two seven inches before Indonesian junk under that name

[00:07:24] And then I was just gonna call it Daniel James and i'm like my friend Johnny Eggerman

[00:07:28] Who's in a bunch of cool bands like uh, his current thing's called Sparrowhawk

[00:07:32] But he used to be in like cozy and the real numbers, but he was he's like you gotta bring that name back

[00:07:41] Especially because it was kind of like like those two singles got put on an Indonesian junk compilation. So it's like

[00:07:47] People you know, like right out of the bat people know it's like kind of just like the new Indonesian junk thing

[00:07:51] I just don't want to like without Johnny and Mike. I didn't want to keep using the name

[00:07:55] They even told me they'll like keep using the name

[00:07:56] But I was just like

[00:07:58] I was like that band is the three of us at this point and I don't want to like use that name unless it's

[00:08:02] The three of us. Yeah

[00:08:04] Yeah, sometimes it's it's just not right. Yeah, sometimes it is but sometimes it's not

[00:08:09] I mean I started the band I started the band it was supposed to be like my forever band and i've used that

[00:08:13] name forever

[00:08:14] and then like

[00:08:16] By time it got to the point where like I was like, okay

[00:08:19] No, this is definitely like a band and it's not just me, you know

[00:08:22] Like even though i'm the songwriter it's like it was definitely like

[00:08:26] Those three guys like we just like knew each other so well from playing a lot where it was like

[00:08:31] If it's not them. Yeah, I can't use the name like even if they tell me I can

[00:08:37] When did you start writing music how old were you when you started? Oh man

[00:08:42] Pretty much right when I started playing guitar

[00:08:44] um

[00:08:45] Mostly it was just like easier to write than it was to figure out other songs for me

[00:08:49] If that makes sense

[00:08:50] Like when i was starting to learn like i learned some riffs and stuff and I just was like

[00:08:53] Too impatient to figure out whole songs. So I just kind of just started like writing my own

[00:08:57] So, I mean like I started playing like in junior high so but I write in like really bad songs

[00:09:03] but

[00:09:04] Like there

[00:09:06] I don't know if anybody writes good good songs

[00:09:11] Although that would be a cool throwback album to bring out your junior high songs

[00:09:15] Like I don't even know if I write good songs now, but I definitely did it in junior high

[00:09:19] The junior high years, yeah

[00:09:24] I uh, I think I saw something on uh

[00:09:28] Facebook the other day are you getting back together with uh

[00:09:31] An old band and playing a show or something like that. Oh, yeah

[00:09:33] I just did that this last weekend actually, um speaking of bad songs or this is older than junior high but like

[00:09:39] Yeah, I my band from the 90s

[00:09:42] Like we just i'm still like really good friends with the drummer like we hang out a lot and it's like I moved

[00:09:46] away, but like we

[00:09:48] Just kind of like in the last couple years like since like maybe like every two or three years

[00:09:52] We'll just like get together and do another show in our hometown and it's fun. It's like yeah

[00:09:56] we just played like

[00:09:57] I was trying to help city mouse like book a show in my hometown and I was like

[00:10:01] I'll just reunite my old band for it. Just so you have a good local to play with

[00:10:05] And like, yeah, we just put yeah, it was saturday. It was a lot of fun. It was like

[00:10:09] I don't know like it's weird

[00:10:10] Well, like especially because we were not really good at music when we did it and all those guys are still in bands

[00:10:15] Too, you know

[00:10:16] So it's like suddenly it's like playing these like

[00:10:19] Bad 90s punk songs that are kind of good

[00:10:21] I don't know that kind of give it like being you know, like with the expertise of adult like shit

[00:10:25] We wrote and we're like 19 and now we're in our 40s and it's like

[00:10:29] I don't know. It was still it was a lot of fun. Like it was I had so much fun doing it like

[00:10:34] What is that? What do you guys call yourself?

[00:10:36] Piston Honda, we're called piston honda. Yeah, and it was like

[00:10:41] Yeah, I kind of well, yeah

[00:10:42] It's my like hometown band and we moved to milwaukee like me and not the drummer that plays with those now

[00:10:47] so we had like a milwaukee version of the band too, which is

[00:10:50] Where I first started playing with gorky who like wound up in like chinese telephones and a bunch of other bands with me

[00:10:57] Did you ever do that little reunion with chinese telephones?

[00:11:00] Yeah, we just toured. We just um, yeah, we've just we have a new seven inch out like

[00:11:06] Yeah, yeah

[00:11:07] Yeah, we we were just um, yeah, we were just uh, we didn't count. I know we did you guys are in dc, right?

[00:11:12] Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we just played slash run to no one. Oh shit. Are you serious? Yeah

[00:11:18] How did I not see this happening? Yeah

[00:11:21] Did you know there was nobody there?

[00:11:22] Uh, it was all right. It was like, uh, definitely like the least attended show of tour

[00:11:26] But it was also I think it was a monday. I can't remember. It was a sunday or monday. So it was who'd you play?

[00:11:31] We played with uh celebration summer and

[00:11:34] And

[00:11:35] Um, what's the other it was all c bands. It was uh, oh what?

[00:11:39] Oh chill parents. Yeah, chill parents celebration summer us and then we were on tour with constant insult from minneapolis

[00:11:44] So we did like nine dates with them and um, we did a couple more days with them like back here too

[00:11:49] But so I don't know how the fuck I missed that. I didn't I never saw like one little thing for it

[00:11:54] Yeah, I i'm bad. I should have like reached out to you guys

[00:11:58] I mean, it's all good if you ever want to come back and play dc again hit us up

[00:12:02] All right, okay get you in the buy shop or something. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely

[00:12:07] Yeah, and that and on a weekend at that

[00:12:10] We only had like we definitely had like nine days to work with so we're like

[00:12:15] But it was I mean for a lot

[00:12:16] I know actually no because we played philly on a monday and that was insane

[00:12:20] That was um, I knew it was gonna be crazy when they announced like

[00:12:24] It was like a low ticket warning only 50 tickets left and I was like, that's the low ticket warning

[00:12:30] Like shit

[00:12:34] Like 50 is like twice what I expect for total capacity usually, you know

[00:12:40] Yeah, I was in milwaukee for the first time in my life last summer

[00:12:43] um

[00:12:44] Fucking loved it great city. What were you doing here? Uh, so my wife got me

[00:12:48] I think it was for father's day. She got me tickets to the um

[00:12:52] It was a harley davidson like fest like two-day thing or oh, yeah

[00:12:56] Yeah, yeah, yeah who like um, so like who fighters headline one night and green day one night

[00:13:00] But we're we're both big fans of jone jet and social i was gonna say jone jet play that yeah

[00:13:04] Oh social do you play that too? I wasn't sure they were supposed to play it

[00:13:07] But they backed out because the dude got uh, what's his name got throat cancer like nas yeah, mike nes

[00:13:11] So they backed out after tickets were purchased. I don't know if she's still I don't know if she would have bought them

[00:13:16] But anyway, we spent a couple days in milwaukee and it's such a rad city such a right

[00:13:21] I know matt's a huge fan of milwaukee too. I am I love the food is amazing

[00:13:25] I'm i'm a huge like sausage and hot dog, dude

[00:13:29] Yeah

[00:13:30] I kind of uh, I have a new job now

[00:13:32] But I was like working kind of in that area like over by the harley museum like during that fest

[00:13:37] I'm like that whole town was so nuts. It was crazy

[00:13:41] I could hear I could hear green day playing for my work, which was pretty cool. So that's cool. Yeah

[00:13:45] Yeah, just the sound of those harley because we had we were in a hotel not too far from the museum

[00:13:49] It was just like 24 7 just harley's

[00:13:52] And we're not harley people, you know, we were there for the music

[00:13:55] But you know, it was still we went to the museum and we checked out like, you know

[00:13:59] Everything that was going on but yeah, new walk is a great city

[00:14:02] I've still never been to that museum. That's um, i've been inside just because like to do stuff

[00:14:06] But i've never done the tour or anything

[00:14:09] It's pretty cool. I mean i'm not a motorcycle dude, like I said, so I didn't really I

[00:14:12] Appreciate it as much as maybe yeah somebody who rides but it was cool

[00:14:16] Yeah

[00:14:17] It was it was just kind of funny though because I do remember like when that got announced like all these like

[00:14:23] you know

[00:14:24] suburban dudes on the internet are just like

[00:14:27] Like oh

[00:14:28] Like you're gonna have this band that hates america play harley fest

[00:14:34] Like when did harley go woke

[00:14:39] Is it's weird to go to a big

[00:14:41] I rarely go to

[00:14:43] Big shows like that. Um, yeah and to be at

[00:14:46] You know, like I always say like the best thing about punk rock is that it's so accessible you could be right against the stage

[00:14:51] For your favorite band of all time. You can't do that if you're a taylor swift fan

[00:14:55] Without either breaking the law or spending thousands

[00:14:58] I was just talking about that like the other day like the first like concert concert

[00:15:03] I ever saw was uh, the kiss reunion tour 96 and I was already like 18 by that point

[00:15:07] But i've been to

[00:15:08] A lot of punk shows at that point. So I was like got very spoiled where all of a sudden i'm like

[00:15:13] Seeing a band and you know, there's more than 100 people there like

[00:15:19] Like watching them on the screen and then he's like telling me and I feel like that's how most people like experience live music

[00:15:25] and it was just like like it's weird because it was like

[00:15:27] kiss has been one of my favorite bands my whole life and I just like

[00:15:31] Didn't really have that good of a time like now I can appreciate that because I know what i'm getting into where like

[00:15:35] You know like like i've seen you know, joan jett which granted joan

[00:15:38] Jets not playing as big of places as kids was on their first reunion tour, but like

[00:15:43] You know like stuff like that or like like I saw guns and roses a while ago. I'm like

[00:15:48] You know, I like now I know what i'm getting into where i'm like, okay, this is fun. But yeah

[00:15:52] I definitely got like spoiled as fuck going up. Oh hell. Yeah

[00:15:57] Yeah, when we were when green day came on that first, I don't know if it was the first

[00:16:00] I think it was the first night

[00:16:01] Uh, it was just we were so far away that I was like you said I was watching them on the screens

[00:16:04] I could I could see people on a stage, but you couldn't tell it was who it was

[00:16:10] I always watch the screen at like I hate going to big ones

[00:16:12] But whenever my friends like drag me to big huge shows i'm like fine. I'll go

[00:16:17] I always end up watching the screen. Yeah

[00:16:20] You know, I saw

[00:16:22] I saw blondie

[00:16:24] Last year maybe a year or two ago though with the dam the dammed were not I mean the dam was only

[00:16:29] Captain I mean it was only dave bainian. So yeah, it wasn't even captain

[00:16:33] so but like they were but like the blondie like

[00:16:36] Seeing that like it was a spectacle and it was awesome kind of it wasn't like a stadium or anything

[00:16:41] But it was like a pretty big theater

[00:16:43] And like yeah

[00:16:44] Like they definitely had like a huge screen going with like all these like visuals and stuff and out like I had the time

[00:16:50] On my fucking life at that thing. So that's cool. That's awesome. Yeah, sometimes it's rad

[00:16:55] Which is because I went for the dam too

[00:16:56] Like the dam were the reason I bought that ticket and I was just like

[00:17:00] During the dam but during blondie. I was like, holy shit. I was like I got my my 200 bucks worth it for this

[00:17:07] Yeah, we walked and we took a tour of the uh paps

[00:17:10] Mansion. Oh, yeah, i've never done that either

[00:17:12] I've lived here for like over 20 years and there's a lot of touristy shit that i've never done that i've been meaning to do

[00:17:18] We just did a lot of things that were like walking distance from the hotel

[00:17:20] Yeah, you can only do in milwaukee, you know the bronze fawns. Did you see that?

[00:17:25] No, oh there's there's like a henry winkler fonzie statue like

[00:17:31] I feel like that's the one thing that whenever people come to milwaukee

[00:17:34] They always take a picture with that the first thing I did because this is by i'm i'm a true crime

[00:17:39] Uh junkie. The first thing I did was looked up where um

[00:17:42] What's his name live the domer?

[00:17:44] Dommer jeffrey that was when I when I moved to milwaukee and first met gorky like that was he gave me the tour

[00:17:51] Yeah, but I um i'm a subject which I uh this weekend like when I played that reunion show I like um, I was like

[00:17:59] Trying to like because I got back early and like rehearsed with my band and then like every night

[00:18:03] I knew was like doing stuff

[00:18:04] So I just had like a couple hours ago and I was like kind of bored trying to think of something to do

[00:18:07] And I almost went to ed gein's grave because it was like 20 minutes

[00:18:12] Which i'd been there before when I was young because I I mean that's where I grew up. So, you know, like

[00:18:17] Do acid in that graveyard?

[00:18:20] But I was just like all of a sudden I was just I got kind of scared I was just like

[00:18:24] I was like if energy is real, there's definitely gonna be bad energy

[00:18:28] Yeah, that would be like i'm just like like I don't want to go and bring that into the show

[00:18:33] I'm about to play right now. Exactly. You don't want that attachment

[00:18:37] Yeah, I was like

[00:18:40] So I don't do that I went to taco jones instead

[00:18:42] Of course

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[00:19:44] We'll talk about the recording process and everything with with the new daniel james gang

[00:19:48] Oh, yeah, I guess we can talk about music

[00:19:52] Um

[00:19:53] Yeah, I started you know, I kind of started it

[00:19:57] Well, the plan was to start like really early like when indonesian junk first kind of broke up

[00:20:01] I was just like I was like, okay if I don't get the ball rolling on this like it's not gonna happen

[00:20:06] but then I got caught up in like other projects anyway, but um

[00:20:10] I uh

[00:20:11] Yeah, my logan who's the drummer on chinese telephone's current drummer

[00:20:15] He also plays in direct hit if you're familiar with them and he's playing a lot of stuff. Um

[00:20:20] Yeah, I hit him up right away and we like kind of worked on a bunch of songs and we went and recorded them

[00:20:26] With my uh at the time roommate. He just bought a house. So now I live alone

[00:20:30] We both live alone, but I still call him our roommate. Uh ian alvara

[00:20:34] Um like went and recorded with him in his studio. We just did the drums there and then

[00:20:41] I kind of like blew all my recording budget

[00:20:44] inside I did all the guitars and vocals at home and then I had ian mix them and he's like

[00:20:51] Kind of busy too because he like he does like touring with like kind of like he's on the road of like lucinda williams nowadays

[00:20:59] and stuff and uh

[00:21:00] Like his schedule like i'm kind of in his mercy

[00:21:04] I'm getting stuff mixed and I finally like started getting mixes back from him and I um

[00:21:09] Got some of the like final like drums back too

[00:21:11] So i'm gonna start finishing the other songs now too where like because he just mixed like three songs right away

[00:21:17] And now I got like four or five more that i'm going to finish up

[00:21:20] But so there's um, yeah, there's a couple more

[00:21:23] I don't know. What is this gonna air? Do you know sunday sunday? I'll fuck it. I'll say it anyway

[00:21:29] Um, I got another single coming out like in a couple weeks. It'll be after this airs

[00:21:33] But uh, it's a cover of the hunt by a new model army

[00:21:37] um, which is

[00:21:39] Just sounds nothing like misery

[00:21:41] I was gonna use this kind of like a backer like later track in the album but

[00:21:46] um

[00:21:47] But it just happened to be one of the ones that were mixed and it turned out really good and then yeah

[00:21:50] There's another single like i'm waiting to drop just because there's a 45 for misery

[00:21:55] Like that's in the pressing plant right now with the other song on the other side

[00:21:59] Um, so i'm waiting till that comes out to drop it but

[00:22:03] And then yeah, there's more songs. So yeah, what's the final weight like nowadays?

[00:22:06] Um, I have no idea and i'm not like i'm going through like a labels doing it. So okay cool

[00:22:11] Yeah, and he was just like yeah

[00:22:12] I was just like do you have any idea like not trying to bug him or anything?

[00:22:15] He's just like he's like I don't even call these things till I get the test press

[00:22:19] Because yeah, it's um, yeah, it's it's a crap shoot sometimes

[00:22:24] We got those chenny's telephones records really fast, so that was amazing like we sent them off like

[00:22:30] Less than two months before touring. We had them in time for tours. Oh, wow. That's really good

[00:22:34] I I is that all new stuff or did you rerecord stuff? Oh, yeah, it's all new stuff

[00:22:38] Yeah, it's three new songs and then uh cover of loyal by the dictators

[00:22:43] Oh, that's awesome. I gotta get I gotta get my hands on that

[00:22:45] yeah, it just got repressed too because it's sold out pretty fast and

[00:22:49] um

[00:22:50] Yeah, weirdly we didn't think it was gonna get repressed because the plates broke at the pressing plan

[00:22:56] And we thought like it was gonna cost more to repress it. But um, yeah, I don't know the label label did like another

[00:23:02] 300 I think so, yeah

[00:23:05] Um since we were just talking about it

[00:23:07] Uh, do you want us to play uh misery on this episode? Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah

[00:23:14] We'll talk about that song and what it means and uh, you know lyrically and

[00:23:18] Um, it's just kind of you know, it's about depression

[00:23:22] Yeah, yeah

[00:23:23] It's just um, yeah, just how it kind of like follows you around, you know, like

[00:23:28] yeah, I feel like a lot of songs i've written have been like

[00:23:33] About depression but I didn't realize it, you know, I just like

[00:23:37] Blame blame other people for my depression and this is the first time I'm just like wrote a song about it as opposed to like

[00:23:44] Yeah, you know

[00:23:47] Yeah

[00:24:14] You always got me

[00:24:40] Try to push around but you

[00:24:47] Is

[00:27:16] Be able to write about it and you know put something out. Yeah, I mean I just yeah. Yeah

[00:27:23] I was like writing songs too. So it's you know, it starts most of the songs just start with me like coming up with

[00:27:28] Like a cool chord progression and then

[00:27:31] Trying really hard to come up with lyrics which is like the hardest thing in the world

[00:27:36] So when you write you write music or do you write have you ever writes?

[00:27:40] Lyrics first i've done. Yeah, I mean i've

[00:27:43] Generally yeah, like there's like a different combo thing. Sometimes i'll write them together

[00:27:48] Um, sometimes i'll write lyrics and then write the music first

[00:27:51] but most of the time like I usually like come up with the music and then like

[00:27:56] I'll record it and then like kind of just like listen to it and like home melodies over it until

[00:28:02] I get like a good melody going and then like apply words to it

[00:28:06] Are those uh boxes of comics behind you by the way? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you have a lot

[00:28:10] That's a fucking that's a lot

[00:28:13] Was at the 20 long boxes, I think

[00:28:16] Yeah, 20 20 long boxes if your place was burning down

[00:28:20] And you only had time to grab two comics out of your collection. Which two would you grab? Oh, Jesus Christ

[00:28:28] I'm gonna go just because they're the most expensive ones

[00:28:30] Um, I don't know. They might be hard to get though because then the marvels are all on the bottom

[00:28:34] So that getting that I have the the hulk with like the wolverine like I forget which issue it is

[00:28:40] But it's like it's wolverine's claws and you see like the reflection hulk in the back end

[00:28:44] Todd mcfarland one that I just um, and then there's another one which I don't even really like the story

[00:28:50] There's the or even the todd mcfarland art

[00:28:53] Um the the batman that todd mcfarland did the issue for the cover for like I never I don't know

[00:28:59] Like it but it's expensive because todd mcfarland drew it and I think it's the

[00:29:04] Minus like year two. I think it's like the only todd mcfarland batman thing really out there

[00:29:09] and so I think that's just why it's expensive and I just like

[00:29:12] Wanted like the complete run so like eventually it was like fuck it

[00:29:16] I'm buying this so like those are probably like my two most expensive comics

[00:29:20] So I guess if I have to pick two i'm gonna go for that. Um, okay

[00:29:24] I figure like everything else is probably

[00:29:27] Unaffordable, I mean I could never repurchase that that's like 40 45 years of collecting right there

[00:29:34] But um, I mean those would be the two hardest to replace. I guess gotcha

[00:29:38] I never really got two it's I one of my best friends from high school is is huge into comics and

[00:29:44] He got me to some of the basic stuff like who's your favorite?

[00:29:48] superhero or

[00:29:50] Who's your favorite to collect like as far as green lantern?

[00:29:54] Uh green lantern has always been my favorite. Yeah, since I was a kid. I started collecting comics like

[00:29:59] well, I mean I got into like that stuff from like super friends and then uh

[00:30:03] In 89 like when the batman movie came out that like that's what got me into comics

[00:30:08] That's we're getting a batman and like the base. Yeah. Yeah

[00:30:12] Also, that's like the my favorite era batman too. It's just like yeah like post crisis

[00:30:17] um, but like that was like green lantern emerald dawn came out about that time and I remember seeing ads for that and I

[00:30:22] was like

[00:30:24] Uh, like I kind of remembered him from super friends

[00:30:26] I'm liking him when I was a little kid and I like started reading that and I was like this is my

[00:30:29] Favorite thing but I yeah, I don't know. I'm a i'm a fucking dork. I didn't even realize I am in my nerd room right now

[00:30:38] It's set up for live streaming because this is also where the room I play dungeons and dragons

[00:30:47] So i'm glad i'm glad this is

[00:30:52] Like if you can see the rest of this room like

[00:30:55] Like that's what I did like when my roommate moved out I just was like I turned his old bedroom into like

[00:31:01] It was like the fucking like shrine to virginity

[00:31:07] I wish I could have a nerd room. Yeah, the house is too small

[00:31:12] Who's your favorite joker of all the

[00:31:15] Caesar the big screen. Yeah

[00:31:17] Okay, I guess it counts as big screen because yeah, there was the the 66 movie. So yeah, yeah, he counts as big screen. Yeah

[00:31:24] That's um

[00:31:26] That's my answer. I I love jack nicholas jack nicholson. I mean, um

[00:31:31] Not the golfer he never played

[00:31:33] Um, but i would watch it though

[00:31:38] But yes, caesar romero, I mean that's definitely

[00:31:41] Those shows were fucking yeah awesome. But what about batman your favorite?

[00:31:46] Are you going? Um, oh man. I mean same era not with my just i'm not just going i don't want to just wait

[00:31:52] Because like the tone of that series is nothing like the comics but right, you know, but I don't like yeah

[00:31:58] I don't like it

[00:31:59] I don't know. It's like christian bale is just too fucking cheesy like I love those movies, but he's just like

[00:32:05] He does that like batman. Yes

[00:32:11] Uh batman boy tell me where the red alert's hiding out

[00:32:15] Like it's just like I don't know

[00:32:17] it's just you that's the thing with the comics is like you read them your whole life and like

[00:32:22] You just have your voices in your head. Yeah, like

[00:32:26] Like then once it like hits the big screen i'm just like

[00:32:29] You know, I knew batman was scary, but I never imagined that voice coming out of them

[00:32:35] There was um a podcast out of one of my favorite podcasts of all time was um

[00:32:40] Gilbert godfrey's amazing was amazing something pocket before he passed away obviously. I didn't even know he had a podcast

[00:32:47] Oh my it was i'm sure i'm assuming there's archives of that because yes. Yeah, yeah, it's um

[00:32:54] And he had this ongoing

[00:32:56] Thing about caesar romero and in fact he oh he sold if you get you can get a um

[00:33:02] Enamel pin from that podcast and it's an orange slice

[00:33:06] Because one of the things

[00:33:08] That caesar romero was into for whatever it was his thing

[00:33:12] um, he liked to um

[00:33:15] Throw orange slices on dudes ass on dudes asses like that's how that was kind of his

[00:33:21] That was his thing. That is like a hollywood. It's you know, there's all these hollywood like rumors

[00:33:26] Yeah, so like he you know, he would like to hang out with you know, dudes and throw orange slices and have them stick to their ass

[00:33:33] That's that's just um an antidote that I remember from his from his podcast. I was you know

[00:33:39] What are you saying caesar romero?

[00:33:41] Not only did I think yes best joker, but I just that popped in my mind

[00:33:45] I mean, why is he the best joker?

[00:33:50] That's why yeah

[00:33:53] Yep, let's solve that one. Yeah

[00:33:58] It's like take that boy wonder

[00:34:05] What is your favorite cereal favorite cereal, um, yeah

[00:34:09] Wow, I I used to have an answer for this

[00:34:12] um

[00:34:14] We figured that this is a super important question. Yeah. Yeah, I don't eat cereal much nowadays

[00:34:20] So I mean I might just say chocula just for the sake of it. Yeah, I'm chocula's looking, you know

[00:34:27] Yeah, would you say that was your favorite when you left the cereal world? I don't know. I used to really like um

[00:34:34] What what would I eat when I eat? I mean I get a lot of different cereals

[00:34:37] So, you know a different I don't know. I always like like the novelty ones even though they're the worst ones like

[00:34:43] Like mr

[00:34:44] Like mr t cereal which is the exact same exact same cereal as et cereal

[00:34:49] Have the ease in it. Oh man

[00:34:53] I remember talking about that in the 90s. They would like

[00:34:56] Like doing cereals would come out for like movies and like the 80s and 90s

[00:35:00] Yeah, and it would just be the same shit just like different shapes

[00:35:03] yeah, and I remember there's one there there was like uh

[00:35:07] I remember this like like comic strip cereal and I have like a couple different comics on the back and I remember like

[00:35:12] I had like curtis and I don't even remember it was like

[00:35:15] Not like popular comics either but like that was one where I did like every week

[00:35:20] It would have like different strips on it though. Oh nice. Yeah

[00:35:24] I don't remember if it was good or not. I just remember

[00:35:28] You know like wasn't important cap and crunch actually like if I think about it now

[00:35:33] Cap and crunch the original captain crunch. Yeah, like yeah

[00:35:36] Maybe like peanut butter crunch if i'm in like the mood to mix it up

[00:35:39] Like those are both good. I mean crunch bears are good too

[00:35:41] I think overall like the crunch family of cereal is probably the best

[00:35:47] Is it the peanut butter captain crunch? What is it? That's the one that's been it's been voted sharpest cereal

[00:35:55] On this podcast

[00:35:57] Yeah

[00:35:57] I remember like and like the sagis the sagis are definitely like the coolest cereal villain

[00:36:03] if sir, I don't know if other cereals have villains they usually just have heroes but like

[00:36:08] like an arid

[00:36:10] all right, because I remember like being a kid and like there's like

[00:36:14] There was like something where you had to like solve the mystery

[00:36:16] Oh is that the disappearance of cap and crunch?

[00:36:18] And I mean that's how they get you to buy it is all those gimmicks

[00:36:20] But you had to get like the different like you'd have to get like

[00:36:23] A cap and crunch a crunch berry a peanut butter crunch and then have different clues on the back

[00:36:27] And like I think that's i'm pretty sure that's how they introduced the sagis too

[00:36:30] But I remember like you'd call some like 800 number

[00:36:33] It's probably a 900 number because they want more money out of you

[00:36:36] Just like get different clues to find cap and crunch and find what happened to him

[00:36:40] But I don't even remember what happened to him. He's like hidden away on like crunch island or something

[00:36:46] It was 100% a 1-900 number. Yeah

[00:36:50] I feel like I feel like my parents wouldn't let me call a 900 number though

[00:36:53] They were like really strict about that. I I definitely remember like

[00:36:57] Calling the like freddy krueger hotline once and it was a big deal that I got to like call the freddy krueger

[00:37:03] What was the freddy krueger hotline?

[00:37:06] He would just call it was like one

[00:37:09] 900-85 fred or something like that

[00:37:12] Like it would just he would just tell stories. I don't even remember the story was but he'd just be like

[00:37:18] I just keep you on the line as the amount of money rolled up. Yeah

[00:37:22] It was a manipulator like like 599 the first minute dollar 99 each additional minute

[00:37:28] What are rackets like that's a that's expensive now like 30 years of inflation later

[00:37:34] Hell, yeah

[00:37:35] Oh people don't know the pain of 1-900 numbers. Yeah

[00:37:39] Yeah of like phone bills and stuff. Yeah

[00:37:43] Calling long distance and like yeah, it seems like another world

[00:37:47] One thing one thing I did was uh

[00:37:50] I mean, I don't know. I'm probably admitting to a felony right now. Well, I was underage. So that's cool

[00:37:55] When I was a kid like we lived in this duplex and like I hated the next door neighbors

[00:38:00] Like so much they were like it was like this kid that would like beat me up in high school

[00:38:04] You know and shit like they only lived there for a couple months

[00:38:06] But it was like the box for our telephones were right outside our window

[00:38:11] So I remember like opening up the box once and just plugging our phone into their line and calling miss cleo

[00:38:18] And just like talking bullshit just because I wanted to rack up their phone bill

[00:38:25] Holy shit, that's so

[00:38:27] This is this is gonna be episode 200 by the way

[00:38:30] And this is the first time miss cleo has ever been mentioned on this podcast

[00:38:35] As well as like yeah episode 200 miss cleo

[00:38:38] Yeah, I was like some fucking dirty work level of revenge now that I think about it

[00:38:44] Oh, man. I miss miss cleo

[00:38:47] I know there's some true crime documentary about those like miss cleo and all those like

[00:38:55] It's wild like because if you were psychic would you be working at a one in

[00:39:01] I mean, you're just psychic enough to know how much of a good scam it is like

[00:39:06] Uh, yeah that uh that documentary on uh, I think it's amazon prime it was called uh telemarketers

[00:39:14] There's like a series. I guess yeah ron watch that that'll give you an insight into the

[00:39:22] It's about

[00:39:23] Scams but very specifically the scam that it that was like the fraternal order of police thing

[00:39:29] Oh, yeah, they'll call you and get money

[00:39:31] Yeah, it's all about that it's crazy it's crazy

[00:39:34] Yeah

[00:39:35] My mom when we were kids in the 90s

[00:39:37] It's like that when I first heard about telemarket even too

[00:39:39] She's like got a job doing that and it was like for like the police association or some shit

[00:39:44] but it wasn't even that where it was like

[00:39:46] Even more of a scam where like she worked there for a couple weeks and all of a sudden like

[00:39:51] because you know jobs are like especially like that kind of job you like

[00:39:55] That you work a week and then like you work two more before you get like that first two weeks paycheck or whatever

[00:40:00] Like yeah, you work in a couple weeks and all of a sudden it was like the day when everyone was supposed to get their first paycheck

[00:40:05] The place was like overnight disappeared

[00:40:08] Oh, no

[00:40:08] They just took everything like it's like pre internet too

[00:40:11] whereas like they just like moved to another city and like so they're like called up everyone like

[00:40:16] Scammed them for money and then

[00:40:19] Bail town before like they could even like then scammed all their employers that had doing it

[00:40:24] So it's just like town like town-to-town racket

[00:40:28] Yeah, and those things still persist today. Yeah, it's pretty crazy that they get away with the shit

[00:40:35] Yeah, that that docu series is is nuts that the part that got me the most about it is like the inside of

[00:40:43] Uh the very specific, you know, like business that the thing's about

[00:40:47] It like reminds you of looking at like a the inside of like a stock brokerage firm

[00:40:51] Where people are just like calling other people trying to talk them out of you know

[00:40:55] Trying to talk them into investing and stuff

[00:40:57] Yeah, it's like literally the same thing

[00:40:59] It's it's it makes you think

[00:41:02] Yeah

[00:41:02] Yeah, those those like fire department ones and police ones are like such scams though

[00:41:06] Because it's like yeah, like the money does not go to anyone except the telemarketing company

[00:41:11] Yeah, they're not they're not even associated with yeah any sort of like police department whatsoever

[00:41:18] Yeah

[00:41:19] And again that one though that show it's like the police department or whatever state they were in finds out about it

[00:41:25] And then goes after them but what ends up happening is they just like the police basically are just like well

[00:41:30] We just want a chunk of it

[00:41:32] Yeah, so then you've got like a couple corrupt cops who are yeah

[00:41:35] It's company like making all the money from the company. Oh, yeah mail in the company. Yeah, it goes even deeper

[00:41:40] It's fucking crazy. Yeah, I need to watch that. Yeah, it's so good. Have you guys seen the one on the um,

[00:41:45] The mcdonald's monopoly. Yes. Yes

[00:41:49] I have I actually haven't seen that one now. That's a while

[00:41:53] It's why it's crazy. Yeah

[00:41:56] All right. I'm gonna ask you this this this newish question. All right, so say um

[00:42:00] Something crazy happens. You had to salvage one book one tv show one movie and one record for the rest of your life

[00:42:06] That's all you had was one of each of those

[00:42:09] One book one movie one tv show one record. Yeah. Yeah, okay

[00:42:15] it's because it's only like

[00:42:18] 12 episodes, but I feel like I feel like young ones is my go-to like always really watch tv show

[00:42:25] Right, like that's like my one comfort show. Yeah

[00:42:29] Movie oh man

[00:42:31] I had an answer for my favorite movie recently and I don't even remember what it was now

[00:42:36] I really don't watch a lot of tv. So yeah, i'm trying to like I try to I just like don't have time

[00:42:43] Um, it's probably better that way. Yeah, it's good that you're putting the effort

[00:42:53] It's weird this is the sort of thing where i'm gonna come back and be like, oh yeah

[00:42:55] That's what my favorite movie is, but I can't um, maybe blues brothers. I don't know

[00:43:00] But I also have not watched that in

[00:43:03] Many many many years. Yeah, but like that like that like spinal tap or like the two that like

[00:43:09] Have the most rewatch value

[00:43:13] Um

[00:43:14] I don't know. I'm currently reading it. So that's just like my answer. Yeah

[00:43:18] Which i've been reading for a very long time and that is a very it's very long. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great book

[00:43:25] Can't see me on it. Yeah, totally. Yeah, it's very

[00:43:27] Yeah, but i've been i've been reading that since before christmas. So yeah

[00:43:31] um

[00:43:32] so right now i'm just like that's the only that's the only book I can think of existing at this point in my life and

[00:43:37] Then all right

[00:43:38] So you got it for book young ones for tv show blues brothers for movies the record is the hardest one. It is the hardest

[00:43:44] Yeah

[00:43:46] Like I wonder like it's it's gotta be a room owns record. It's gotta be it's gotta be

[00:43:51] Either rocket to russia road to ruin i'm gonna say rocket to russia. Okay, but the stones exist

[00:43:59] Yeah

[00:44:01] Rocket to russia rocket to russia it's a good choice. Yeah, no actually no i'm gonna go road to ruin

[00:44:07] Okay, just because it's a little varies in style a little so it's like

[00:44:11] Might give my life with only one record a little more variety

[00:44:15] Even though I probably think rocket to russia is like more listened to

[00:44:20] I think road to ruin is gonna be my answer. Cool

[00:44:24] Would you like us would you uh, we would love to play it like a chinese telephone

[00:44:28] Song, yeah, if you're down with that. Yeah, um, I can't you know what i'll do is too is i'll um,

[00:44:33] I'll send you guys that new ep after this but uh, cool. There's um

[00:44:39] My

[00:44:41] My favorite song on there is probably tamping down my soul

[00:44:44] Which is the first song on the second side radiana, which is the first track might be the most popular one

[00:44:49] So you guys can play whatever you prefer on there

[00:44:52] Okay, cool. Yeah

[00:44:54] They're all good. I mean I like

[00:44:56] I was really like they're all good like i'm talking about myself, but I think

[00:44:59] I'm weighing all four of those all four songs out there, especially the cover like that's the only chinese telephone song where I get to like

[00:45:07] Show off on guitar, you know because i'm like trying to play like a ross the boss part. So

[00:45:32] All right

[00:46:34] Oh

[00:48:01] Where'd the name come where the name of that band come from chinese phones

[00:48:04] Um, yeah, justin came up with it. It was like what they call the telephone game when he was a kid

[00:48:09] Like in iowa, he's from iowa. Okay, so yeah and then yeah

[00:48:14] Yeah, I think again. What is that? It's like where you like you have like

[00:48:18] Like four to six people or something. It was like a kid's game where you like whisper something in someone's ear

[00:48:24] And then they whisper it in the next person's ear like do it till like yes

[00:48:28] Yeah, so then it's like yeah, then like okay, you know, and then it'll be like something totally different

[00:48:34] Everyone I knew in minneapolis like really like chinese telephones when I was like listing off the names we had

[00:48:39] And I came back and I was like that's what everyone likes. So that's what

[00:48:42] Awesome, well let everybody know where they could find you on the internet. Um

[00:48:47] Yeah, I have links to like all my stuff on uh, danieljamesgang.com

[00:48:50] um, which is

[00:48:52] As I mentioned is an old band name so it's kind of been my like go to like tagline forever

[00:48:57] So and yeah as likes to all that i'm gonna like another new band called world in action too

[00:49:01] That's more anachronous punk stuff that um, so like there's links to that and like my artwork and crap on there. So

[00:49:08] Yeah, cool man. Well, thanks a lot for doing this again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for having me

[00:49:14] Yeah, next time you come to see let us know. Okay. I will yeah also

[00:49:17] I I went to get back to the serial thing. Um, do you remember the zine called tight pants?

[00:49:23] Oh, I wish I wish I was yeah, it was like it was like early 2000s

[00:49:27] my older roommate maddie did it who was like um,

[00:49:30] Like one of my the first place I lived at at milwaukee with like natal coles and stuff and she was she lived

[00:49:34] There she did a zine. She wrote for razor cake for a while too. Nice. Now. She does like legitimate journalism

[00:49:40] Um, but she had a zine called tight pants

[00:49:42] But and she brought it in a razor cake too where like her thing was she always like she was way into cereal

[00:49:47] And she would always compare records to cereal. Yes. That's awesome

[00:49:52] Yeah, like it was lucky charms

[00:49:53] Like it was like, you know if it was like exploding hearts or something, it'd be lucky charms

[00:49:57] You know like that was like the number one thing like I think she quit doing it before exploding hearts, but like

[00:50:03] Yeah

[00:50:04] yeah, if it was like

[00:50:07] Like the groovy googly is one of them lucky charms, you know

[00:50:11] Yeah

[00:50:12] See we're gonna have to have her on now an episode

[00:50:16] Yeah, she does a really good podcast called in the dark nowadays

[00:50:19] All right, cool. I'll check it out. It was like a true crime podcast. Oh cool through public radio

[00:50:24] Yeah, it's um, it's cool. Yeah. Yeah, I recommend it sweet

[00:50:29] Ron loves true crime. So, you know, he's

[00:50:33] Yeah, I watched it for like I was watching like

[00:50:36] Eight hours today of just like I just had it on the tv

[00:50:38] I was like I need to watch like bobs burgers or something just to get my mind off of like

[00:50:43] death and

[00:50:44] Yeah creepy. I went through yeah earlier this year. I was watching like uh, it was kind of like um

[00:50:52] Oh something like living with a monster or something

[00:50:54] I was like way in the show is about like people that lived with serial killers

[00:50:59] Like their families and stuff like after a while I was like, okay, I can't watch this anymore. Yeah

[00:51:05] Yeah, imagine finding out your husband is btk like jesus christ. I can't even

[00:51:11] Uh, it's so creepy like sleeping next to him and

[00:51:14] Yeah, that's wild. I think at some point some of these people spouses like

[00:51:20] have to like

[00:51:22] Understand that there's something not right and they're just like lying to themselves and in denial

[00:51:27] Well, there's something I kind of realized about the shows because there's so many people that are always like

[00:51:31] Like oh, I never knew I never knew like you hear that sort of that

[00:51:33] but i've realized like watching these shows i'm like

[00:51:37] Everyone like they didn't know that but they were just like like everyone like acts like yes

[00:51:41] Who are killers? They're like the nicest person to you, but like their families are just like being tortured

[00:51:45] You know, like these guys are just like like abusive husbands abusive fathers like

[00:51:50] like

[00:51:51] short tempered as fuck like maybe they like put on a show for the neighbors but like

[00:51:55] Right. Yeah, their families like live through hell and in and in some instances like

[00:52:00] Didn't the 17 locks on the basement door and you're not allowed to go down there

[00:52:05] Yeah, fucking knock something loose in your head to make you think hey something's not right here

[00:52:12] In some of these yeah

[00:52:13] Yeah, but but like daniel said like if you're if you're that abusive to your spouse then they just know to not even question

[00:52:19] Yeah, i don't even want to like think about the basement because I don't want to hit or whatever

[00:52:24] I mean, yeah, I guess you even get some level of like stockholm syndrome

[00:52:29] So and i also got like watching that too. I was just like

[00:52:32] Is my dad a serial killer?

[00:52:36] I don't know. He was a truck driver. I don't know what he did on the road

[00:52:44] On that note

[00:52:46] Well, thank you for having thanks a lot dude

[00:52:48] Yeah, okay cool. All right. Take care. All right later

[00:52:52] Yeah later, all right