Richie Ramone Returns

[00:00:00] Well they needed a jingle for their stupid little shows So they called up the Jasons and we said,

[00:00:04] Fuck No!

[00:00:05] Then they called us again and they gave us 20 bucks And we wrote them a song that said,

[00:00:09] You're back again son!

[00:00:10] Then they gave us more money and they asked us really nice And we finally gave in and we said,

[00:00:14] Alright, I'll write you a song But it's gonna be a clone of a screeching weasel song

[00:00:18] That we heard a while ago

[00:00:20] So we wrote them a jingle and it sounded really rad It was the best little jingle that the pockets ever had

[00:00:24] But the file got corrupted and the email didn't work Now they're stuck without a jingle singing our brain tits

[00:00:31] Our brain tits, our brain tits, our brain tits

[00:00:36] Our brain tits, our brain tits, our brain tits

[00:00:41] Alright, infringing sort of way

[00:00:54] Tonight we're talking to Richie Ramone back on the podcast Since our first couple months doing it

[00:01:00] He was like, we started in late September And he was like our Christmas episode that year

[00:01:06] Yeah, it was very early on

[00:01:08] He's got a lot to talk about He had a new album drop and a movie drop in the fall of last year

[00:01:13] He's got some movies coming out

[00:01:15] How you doing?

[00:01:16] Good, doing good

[00:01:18] Man, you look like you're in paradise Where are you? Is that your place?

[00:01:21] Yeah, I have some chickens and stuff like that

[00:01:25] Oh hell yeah

[00:01:27] Just on the out, you know

[00:01:29] It's in LA County but on the edge by the 210 freeway

[00:01:34] Okay, cool

[00:01:36] So it's nice

[00:01:37] That is nice

[00:01:38] How's the weather out there?

[00:01:39] Good, it's just, it's like 70 now It still hasn't really gotten super hot yet

[00:01:45] Which it should but we had a lot of rain this year

[00:01:48] And I know you guys had plenty of rain but

[00:01:52] Yeah

[00:01:53] Lots of rain

[00:01:55] Yeah, my brother's in the valley He's in Woodland Hills and his

[00:01:59] I know he had like a couple floods in his house this year He said it was pretty bad

[00:02:02] Yeah, Woodland Hills is far from here

[00:02:04] I'm about 15 minutes from there

[00:02:07] Alright, cool

[00:02:08] Last time we talked to you it was like in the middle of COVID

[00:02:12] It was like December of 2020 It was one of our first episodes

[00:02:16] Really? Wow

[00:02:18] That was a fucking mess then

[00:02:21] It was

[00:02:24] It was December It was funny because I was listening to a little bit

[00:02:29] Just to kind of, I didn't want to like double up on questions or anything

[00:02:32] But you had just come off of a seven day water fast

[00:02:35] Do you remember that?

[00:02:37] Yeah

[00:02:38] Have you done it since?

[00:02:40] I don't think so

[00:02:41] No, I think I did like five It wasn't really a water fast

[00:02:45] It was just, well yeah It was fasting, just not eating

[00:02:48] You know, just to clear out my body type of thing and

[00:02:52] I really haven't done it again I've really maintained really well

[00:02:55] As far as my weight and everything so

[00:02:58] Nice

[00:02:59] It's kind of brutal

[00:03:00] You know

[00:03:01] Now I read stuff about, you know

[00:03:03] I used to be on the intermittent fasting and all this stuff

[00:03:06] Now they say oh don't do that

[00:03:08] You know, it's like one day you can do this

[00:03:10] And then the next day you're not supposed to

[00:03:12] So

[00:03:13] Yeah, yeah

[00:03:14] But now I'm just like the moderation guy

[00:03:16] The old man who lives in moderation

[00:03:19] A little of this, a little of that

[00:03:21] And that seems to work I guess

[00:03:23] Yeah, that's the way to do it

[00:03:25] It's kind of like eating eggs

[00:03:27] It's like every three months eggs are healthy for you

[00:03:29] And then it's like the worst thing you could eat

[00:03:31] And then somebody does a study and they're like healthy, you know

[00:03:33] It's like

[00:03:34] Right

[00:03:35] I can't keep up with it anymore

[00:03:37] I know

[00:03:38] You just, it's just like fuck it

[00:03:40] Wow, it's been a long time

[00:03:41] Four years

[00:03:42] Yeah, it has been four years

[00:03:43] Yeah, I know

[00:03:44] It's crazy

[00:03:45] Looking into you, you're super fucking busy

[00:03:47] I mean you just had a record drop last fall

[00:03:50] As well as Protégé Moi came out

[00:03:52] You have a couple of the movies in the works

[00:03:55] But first I just want to kind of get back to

[00:03:58] One of the things I like to ask

[00:03:59] That we like to ask everybody on the show is

[00:04:01] When did you first get into punk rock

[00:04:03] And do you remember those first few bands that kind of got you hooked

[00:04:06] A lot of times we ask this question

[00:04:07] It's usually a sibling

[00:04:09] That got somebody into punk rock or a good friend

[00:04:11] No, my sibling

[00:04:12] My sibling got me into jazz fusion

[00:04:15] He was a horn player

[00:04:17] So I was into like eight piece horn bands when I was like 15

[00:04:21] That's where I got all the chops and the

[00:04:23] Jazz chops and the fusion chops

[00:04:26] To be able to play the punk rock beat with such finesse

[00:04:30] Rather than playing it like a robot

[00:04:33] You know what I'm saying?

[00:04:35] I can make that beat swing

[00:04:37] A lot of drummers can't make that beat swing

[00:04:40] And they're too rigid

[00:04:43] But it wasn't until I moved to New York City

[00:04:47] In 1980, really, 79, 80

[00:04:52] When all the British invasion was coming

[00:04:55] And all these kinds of bands were coming over there

[00:04:57] There was a whole new sound coming

[00:04:59] Every day you go to the store and find some stuff

[00:05:02] And that's when I really got into stomping around the village

[00:05:05] And going to Max's Kansas City and CBGBs and all that

[00:05:09] That's when it really turned for me

[00:05:11] You know, had my brother not been a sax player

[00:05:14] And was a guitar player on the MC5

[00:05:16] Because he was five years older than me

[00:05:18] Then that would have been a different outlook

[00:05:20] You know, then it would have came to me sooner

[00:05:23] But being in the suburbs of New Jersey

[00:05:26] Which is about 10 miles away from New York City

[00:05:30] I wasn't exposed to the scene in 74, 75, 76

[00:05:34] Plus I was still a little young then

[00:05:37] But really about 1980 is when it happened

[00:05:40] And I don't know what you call punk rock anymore

[00:05:43] That is true

[00:05:45] It's rock and roll

[00:05:47] Out on the west coast, it's all that west coast punk

[00:05:50] Which is like that halftime stuff

[00:05:52] That real poppy stuff

[00:05:54] Not really, well, I don't know

[00:05:58] Not really crazy about that kind

[00:06:01] I like the New York style kind of stuff

[00:06:04] And the Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers kind of stuff

[00:06:07] Like just that, you know, nitty gritty kind of thing

[00:06:11] So I liked the Mimones did

[00:06:13] They added a little bubble gum thing to it

[00:06:16] But it was more, you know, swinging

[00:06:18] It wasn't, ah, fuck yeah, ah

[00:06:21] It was so angst and angered and filled with hate

[00:06:24] I just not, just not, just never into that

[00:06:27] But it's fun to listen to once in a while

[00:06:30] But not mine, not what I like, you know

[00:06:33] I need a little more substance

[00:06:35] Yeah, gotcha

[00:06:36] It's kind of funny how the difference on the coasts

[00:06:39] Between how punk rock has evolved

[00:06:42] On the west coast and the east coast

[00:06:44] It's really interesting to me

[00:06:46] How different it is

[00:06:48] Yeah, it's totally different

[00:06:50] Two different things, you know

[00:06:52] I mean, I have this kind of

[00:06:54] It's the kind of music I write

[00:06:56] And I like and out here it's more

[00:06:58] It's kind of easier on the drummer

[00:07:00] Because they're just playing half time on the hi-hat

[00:07:02] It's a different kind of beat, you know

[00:07:05] But it's like

[00:07:09] So many bands doing that

[00:07:12] That poppy sing-along kind of thing

[00:07:15] I don't know, you know

[00:07:16] I don't know if you know what I mean

[00:07:17] But it's like same thing, the same fucking thing

[00:07:20] Same progression, the same

[00:07:22] Hey, you know, like all that kind of shit

[00:07:26] You know, I don't know

[00:07:28] It just becomes too much for me

[00:07:31] I need music that comes from the soul

[00:07:33] That comes from within, that comes from deep

[00:07:36] You know, not something that, you know

[00:07:38] Oh, let's do a song like that, you know

[00:07:41] Because you can all do a song like that

[00:07:43] It needs to be deep and it needs to say something

[00:07:46] You know, otherwise I lose interest, you know

[00:07:49] That's why it takes me so long to make religion stuff

[00:07:54] Yeah, I think that speaks to your jazz background

[00:07:57] Because I think a lot of people

[00:07:58] When it comes to punk

[00:08:00] A lot of people will play drums

[00:08:02] Or any instrument, bass, whatever

[00:08:04] Because they want to be in a punk band

[00:08:06] Whereas you were trained on jazz

[00:08:10] And started playing drums in a punk band

[00:08:12] Like you said, you had those chops to kind of go along

[00:08:14] And kind of add to your style

[00:08:17] You know what I mean?

[00:08:18] What?

[00:08:19] Yeah

[00:08:20] I had all that knowledge

[00:08:22] Instead of drum teacher

[00:08:24] In fourth grade I read music

[00:08:26] You know, I was like

[00:08:28] All state snare drum in eleventh grade

[00:08:30] I was all state timpani player, sight reading one

[00:08:33] You know, for the whole state of all the musicians

[00:08:35] You go on your site, read timpani parts

[00:08:37] You know how hard that is in an orchestra

[00:08:39] Because you got to tune and hit and tune

[00:08:41] I went first in timpani and snare

[00:08:44] First snare, I had to make a choice

[00:08:46] So I had all this kind of like chops

[00:08:50] And ended up in a punk rock band

[00:08:52] But I knew what to do with that beat

[00:08:54] Yeah

[00:08:55] I knew what to do with it

[00:08:57] Tommy didn't have to go

[00:08:59] Oh you got to play it like this

[00:09:01] He just said on the first record, Tommy

[00:09:03] I said how am I doing?

[00:09:05] He said oh you're doing fucking great

[00:09:07] That's all he had to say to me in the studio

[00:09:09] You know?

[00:09:11] So, I mean

[00:09:13] That's what it was about

[00:09:15] And it gave me an explicit meter

[00:09:17] My meter is off the charts

[00:09:19] You can hook me up to the machine

[00:09:21] And be like whoa

[00:09:23] When Dave Stewart did that

[00:09:25] That song with me

[00:09:27] He wanted to put us on the click track

[00:09:29] I said no, I got to hook up synthesizers

[00:09:31] He said, I was like a half a beat off

[00:09:33] From the beginning to the end

[00:09:35] He couldn't believe it, he called me the human drum machine

[00:09:37] So, and that's what I learned from a lot of those bands coming out east

[00:09:41] In the 80s

[00:09:43] From England

[00:09:45] It had a very drum

[00:09:47] Very simple solid sound

[00:09:49] You know? Like the drumming changed

[00:09:51] You know? It went from like

[00:09:53] The looseness of like a Charlie Watts

[00:09:55] And that kind of punk stuff

[00:09:57] That speeds up and slows down

[00:09:59] To this real steady kind of drumming

[00:10:01] Which was what I really adapted to

[00:10:03] You know?

[00:10:05] I hate to speed up and slow down

[00:10:07] You know? But that has

[00:10:09] It's certain sexiness to it

[00:10:11] You know? I understand that

[00:10:13] But um

[00:10:15] It's not my thing, I just want to be there

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[00:11:19] How did you end up in a punk band?

[00:11:21] After the old jazz stuff

[00:11:23] Was it seeing

[00:11:25] Like I know you just said you moved to New York

[00:11:27] In like 80, was it seeing it all

[00:11:29] And just being like hey this is for me

[00:11:31] Yeah I was seeing it all

[00:11:33] I saw the Ramones in 1975

[00:11:35] In New Jersey

[00:11:37] And I was like wow this is really interesting

[00:11:39] You know I just got out of high school

[00:11:41] But I didn't put

[00:11:43] Two things together

[00:11:45] I still played

[00:11:47] In cover bands, why?

[00:11:49] When I was 18 I traveled the country

[00:11:51] In a cover band because it paid the bills

[00:11:53] As soon as I went to original music I was broke

[00:11:55] You know

[00:11:57] Sadly that's still the case

[00:11:59] You're in an original band now

[00:12:01] Now you're broke

[00:12:03] We were just talking to somebody about that the other night

[00:12:05] Why do cover bands make so much more money

[00:12:07] Than original bands

[00:12:09] In like the punk rock world at least

[00:12:11] No, forget it

[00:12:13] Nowadays that's

[00:12:15] Boy if you're in a cover band

[00:12:17] Playing cover songs

[00:12:19] You get good gigs

[00:12:21] That's what people want to go out and hear now

[00:12:23] Sadly enough 70-80% of the people

[00:12:25] They just want to hear that

[00:12:27] They want to hear the song

[00:12:29] That they heard before

[00:12:31] They don't give a shit how good it is

[00:12:33] So they can sing along

[00:12:35] Come to the show and think a little

[00:12:37] You need to think a little

[00:12:39] And dive into the music and think what's going on

[00:12:41] And watch what's going on

[00:12:43] Instead of just flashing your phone at the stage

[00:12:45] And singing along like

[00:12:47] Oh I know that

[00:12:49] Give me another beer

[00:12:51] Yeah they just want something to drink too

[00:12:53] Right

[00:12:55] Yeah so when

[00:12:57] After I wanted to get into original music

[00:12:59] I stopped because I had a really cool gig

[00:13:01] My mother bought me like this

[00:13:03] Mazda car

[00:13:05] When I was like 17

[00:13:07] And I went in a show band 5 sets a night

[00:13:09] I was 18 years old

[00:13:11] We played Sheridan Inns

[00:13:13] 6 days a week from here

[00:13:15] From New York to Missouri

[00:13:17] Halfway across the country

[00:13:19] We'd stay 3 weeks at each

[00:13:21] Sheridan Inn

[00:13:23] And then we'd move on to another lounge

[00:13:25] And we had 5 sets a night

[00:13:27] With different colored suits

[00:13:29] Pink, blue, everything

[00:13:31] Let me tell you my fucking chops then

[00:13:33] Were so fucking amazing

[00:13:35] I was so fast

[00:13:37] It was ridiculous

[00:13:39] And it used to be a lot of fun because you get to know

[00:13:41] All the barmaids and everything for 3 weeks

[00:13:43] You had these friends that you made for 3 weeks

[00:13:45] And it's always sad to move on

[00:13:47] To the next city

[00:13:49] But I did that for a while

[00:13:51] You know

[00:13:53] I think I started banging the singer

[00:13:55] And that was the bass player's girl

[00:13:57] So that fucked everything up

[00:14:01] And so then I said, I'm going home

[00:14:03] I'm gonna do original music

[00:14:05] And that's when I went broke

[00:14:07] That's when I moved to New York City

[00:14:09] I met a guy named Flash

[00:14:11] We started a band, Remod

[00:14:13] That single I did with them

[00:14:15] Only 100 were pressed

[00:14:17] I think they're going for thousands of dollars now

[00:14:19] Killer single if you could ever

[00:14:21] Find it

[00:14:25] And we did that

[00:14:27] We were a CBGB band and all that kind of stuff

[00:14:29] The bass player was from Malcolm Cookies

[00:14:31] Sal Meta

[00:14:35] And we were ahead of our time

[00:14:37] We're a really new way

[00:14:39] Lisa Burns, she was the singer

[00:14:41] Kind of a little ahead

[00:14:43] A little ahead of our time in the 1980s

[00:14:45] I think

[00:14:47] And all the background parts with her

[00:14:49] So I did that for a while

[00:14:53] Then nothing panned out

[00:14:55] And I always said, how long am I gonna keep doing this

[00:14:57] And playing in this band and that band

[00:15:01] Until finally Larry

[00:15:03] He was the drum roadie

[00:15:05] I was hanging at the shirts house

[00:15:07] The shirts with Annie Golden

[00:15:09] You remember that band?

[00:15:11] They had some success

[00:15:13] Hanging in the studio

[00:15:15] We sat there with the Ramones auditioning drummers

[00:15:17] Put my name in the hat

[00:15:19] And then Monty called me Monty Melnick

[00:15:21] That's how I got into the Ramones

[00:15:25] I don't know, that's really how I fell into it

[00:15:29] Not like

[00:15:31] I don't know

[00:15:33] Do you say this? I'm not like a real

[00:15:35] Die hard fanboy

[00:15:37] Sorry

[00:15:39] I'm just not that person

[00:15:41] I never had posters on my wall or anything

[00:15:43] I just

[00:15:45] Knew that

[00:15:47] I wanted a career of this

[00:15:49] Sadly

[00:15:51] Maybe I should have did something else

[00:15:53] Let me tell you

[00:15:55] It's a rough life

[00:15:57] The arts is a terrible

[00:15:59] Not terrible but it's a very difficult life

[00:16:01] You gotta have a strong backbone to try to survive in the arts

[00:16:03] Guys today, they wanna play guitar in a band

[00:16:05] You gotta play in six different bands

[00:16:07] To make the money

[00:16:09] To tour and all of that

[00:16:11] You gotta work your day job at Trader Joe's

[00:16:13] And play in your band at night

[00:16:15] That's the only way

[00:16:17] The only way

[00:16:21] Only the chosen few

[00:16:23] Ever get to that

[00:16:25] Point

[00:16:27] I always tell my guitar player

[00:16:29] You should be a DJ, this was years ago

[00:16:31] Why you even playing guitar?

[00:16:33] You're a good looking guy

[00:16:35] Just go be a DJ, you'll do really well

[00:16:37] He didn't listen, he wanted to play guitar

[00:16:41] When you moved to New York, were you in Alphabet City

[00:16:43] In the East Village?

[00:16:45] Yeah I did move there eventually

[00:16:47] At first I moved in with my girlfriend

[00:16:49] Right by the UN building

[00:16:51] At 44th, the Beaux Arts building

[00:16:53] It had a fireplace, that was a bitching place

[00:16:55] We knew the guy who had it

[00:16:57] And he rented it to us like at cost

[00:16:59] Cause he owned it

[00:17:01] And that was fun

[00:17:03] But then I did move to Avenue A

[00:17:05] And

[00:17:07] Avenue A and 11th Street

[00:17:09] That was a rough place in the 80s

[00:17:11] Oh yeah

[00:17:13] It was a tiny apartment

[00:17:15] But it was all redone inside

[00:17:17] Cause I have this phobia of rats and mice and shit

[00:17:19] I don't like them crawling where I sleep

[00:17:21] Where I sleep

[00:17:23] But this was all redone inside

[00:17:25] Little tiny apartment, that's what I got there

[00:17:27] And you would have to step over the rats

[00:17:29] To get into the apartment

[00:17:31] But

[00:17:33] That was the scene

[00:17:35] The kids today in punk rock and coming up

[00:17:37] They never lived that scene

[00:17:39] That was the scene, everybody

[00:17:41] We all lived there, we all lived in alphabet city

[00:17:43] We'd all go out

[00:17:45] Here where I live now

[00:17:47] I can go out like in my fucking pajamas

[00:17:49] To the fucking Ralphs

[00:17:51] When I lived in alphabet city

[00:17:53] I was like okay, I'm fucking going outside the door

[00:17:55] I'm not gonna go out in my pajamas

[00:17:57] And slippers

[00:17:59] Cause there's people there

[00:18:01] You know what I'm saying

[00:18:03] So

[00:18:05] It was a cool time

[00:18:07] And it was so great cause you could just walk everywhere

[00:18:09] You never had to have a car

[00:18:11] And walk home and

[00:18:13] Do a bunch of quailoo's and stumble home

[00:18:15] It was just

[00:18:17] It was so alive

[00:18:19] Club hop, you can club hop from place to place

[00:18:21] It was really still happening in 1980

[00:18:23] Big time

[00:18:25] It's funny, I think it was either

[00:18:27] Vinnie Stigma or John Joseph

[00:18:29] They were talking about alphabet city

[00:18:31] And they were saying

[00:18:33] If you make it to avenue B, you're brave

[00:18:35] Avenue C, you're crazy, avenue D, you're dead

[00:18:39] That's pretty close, yeah

[00:18:41] I made it to avenue A

[00:18:43] That was enough for me

[00:18:45] But

[00:18:47] There's something though

[00:18:49] The average person may be dead

[00:18:51] But when you grew up on those streets

[00:18:53] Well you get street smart

[00:18:55] Real quick

[00:18:57] You're not really afraid at like

[00:18:59] 20 years old

[00:19:01] You know what I'm saying? You're not afraid

[00:19:03] You walk, you know

[00:19:05] The gangsters pick up on that stuff

[00:19:07] They know if you're afraid

[00:19:09] They know if you're local or whatever

[00:19:11] So

[00:19:13] Never really bothered me

[00:19:15] But there were certain places you didn't want to go like at 2 in the morning

[00:19:17] Walking by yourself, of course not

[00:19:19] Cause then you get jumped, then they take your money

[00:19:21] Living in LA now

[00:19:23] Is there anything, what do you miss about Jersey

[00:19:25] And what do you not miss about Jersey

[00:19:27] I miss everything

[00:19:29] I miss everything about the East Coast in general

[00:19:31] You know

[00:19:33] First off, the people, the food

[00:19:35] The food, yeah

[00:19:37] It's just so

[00:19:39] It's just so different to living out here

[00:19:41] Here you have to have the car

[00:19:43] Here people are a little

[00:19:45] What I don't like about it here

[00:19:47] Is

[00:19:49] Even in business they never give you a straight answer

[00:19:51] If I go to a meeting

[00:19:53] And I say, like when I was shopping one of my albums

[00:19:55] They're spinning it

[00:19:57] Oh this is fucking great, wow yeah

[00:19:59] Yeah man

[00:20:01] Yeah, yeah

[00:20:03] Alright Richie we'll call you

[00:20:05] One week, two weeks, fucking nothing

[00:20:07] Wait we didn't make a decision

[00:20:09] Like six weeks later, oh no we passed

[00:20:11] They passed when I was in that office

[00:20:13] They passed on the album then

[00:20:15] Tell me right the fuck then

[00:20:17] In New York they'll tell you business wise

[00:20:19] Now this ain't right for me

[00:20:21] If you're going to an acting audition

[00:20:23] They'll say not next

[00:20:25] In ten seconds they'll go next

[00:20:27] Over here they'll go oh

[00:20:29] Let him go a little longer, we don't want to hurt his feelings

[00:20:31] That's a little too much you know

[00:20:33] So that's the biggest thing

[00:20:35] The business side here

[00:20:37] But

[00:20:39] I'm so glad I didn't grow up here

[00:20:41] Because I grew up with the East Coast

[00:20:43] Vibe

[00:20:45] And now I have it here, so right now what am I doing

[00:20:47] Am I going out every night? No it doesn't

[00:20:49] Matter, I go see if I have to go see

[00:20:51] A band or know somebody playing

[00:20:53] But I'm not club hopping

[00:20:55] I'm not you know

[00:20:57] Going after women and having to go

[00:20:59] Out and drink and find the women

[00:21:01] So it's

[00:21:03] It's okay

[00:21:05] Now I like it because there's no snow

[00:21:07] And I enjoy playing golf so I get to do

[00:21:09] That all year long

[00:21:11] And having the car is nice

[00:21:13] To

[00:21:15] I don't know, you can go to the store and put something

[00:21:17] In the trunk rather than take it home

[00:21:19] On the subway

[00:21:23] So Lift a Tell came out

[00:21:25] It's an awesome album, I love that you did Cry Little Sister

[00:21:27] And that kind of gets me into

[00:21:29] Like the acting part

[00:21:31] Quick question is what drew you

[00:21:33] To horror?

[00:21:35] What got you into horror movies

[00:21:37] I know a lot of in the punk

[00:21:39] Rock community there tends to be like

[00:21:41] So many punks are into

[00:21:43] Horror as well and I just always wonder what

[00:21:45] That connection is

[00:21:47] I don't know, horror drew me, I drew horror

[00:21:49] I just fell into that genre

[00:21:51] But did you see these cheekbones

[00:21:53] These are great horror cheekbones

[00:21:55] They play great vampires

[00:21:57] They play great all kinds of

[00:21:59] Freaks

[00:22:01] They put a little makeup on there I look like

[00:22:03] Totally withdrawn but

[00:22:05] The Robbie Lopez

[00:22:07] Who got me into that

[00:22:09] He just came to one of my

[00:22:11] Conventions, my autograph shows

[00:22:13] And said I want to put you in a movie

[00:22:15] And that's how the whole thing started

[00:22:17] And from there I did another

[00:22:19] Another one with him with

[00:22:21] Proto-Jay Moore

[00:22:23] Where I was the vampire

[00:22:25] And that's where Cry Little Sisters

[00:22:27] From

[00:22:29] Because I put that on

[00:22:31] From that movie he wanted me to do

[00:22:33] That song remake

[00:22:35] And then

[00:22:37] Then it just blossomed

[00:22:39] I'm not auditioning

[00:22:41] The roles or anything like that

[00:22:43] It's directors

[00:22:45] Or filmmakers

[00:22:47] Call me and say

[00:22:49] I saw you on Friday the 13th Bloodlines

[00:22:51] Can you come to this

[00:22:53] I just got back from Kentucky last week

[00:22:55] Shooting another one called

[00:22:57] The Boy From Below

[00:22:59] And I'm the cemetery care keeper

[00:23:01] I work in the cemetery

[00:23:03] So

[00:23:05] That was kind of fun filming in Kentucky

[00:23:07] And I did another one

[00:23:09] A few months ago called

[00:23:11] 259, like the hour

[00:23:13] Like 3 o'clock in the morning is the witching hour

[00:23:15] This is 259 when the demons come out

[00:23:17] It's a true story

[00:23:19] I have a pretty big part in that

[00:23:21] That should be out sometime

[00:23:23] Later in the year

[00:23:25] It takes a long time before they come out and catch up

[00:23:27] And I did one in Florida

[00:23:29] Called Youthquake

[00:23:31] That's kind of different

[00:23:33] I had one coming up called Catalyst

[00:23:35] In July in New Mexico

[00:23:37] That's a short film

[00:23:39] We're actually playing something different

[00:23:41] It's not horror I'm trying to spread out

[00:23:43] I'm this farmer who

[00:23:45] Is tormented and he loses his farm

[00:23:47] And he lost his wife

[00:23:49] And he ends up burning the barn down

[00:23:51] With himself in it

[00:23:53] And it's a 20 minute short so I'm looking forward to

[00:23:55] That's a real emotional acting

[00:23:57] Thing going on with that

[00:23:59] So those things have just been falling in my lap

[00:24:01] I'm not really going after them

[00:24:03] You know

[00:24:05] Was acting initially

[00:24:07] A passion for you or did you

[00:24:09] Meet somebody and end up in something

[00:24:11] You just kind of went with it

[00:24:13] I never thought I would

[00:24:15] Do that

[00:24:17] It's never really a passion

[00:24:19] Because there's a lot of waiting around in acting

[00:24:21] A lot of waiting around

[00:24:23] You have to learn how to wait

[00:24:25] Four hours

[00:24:27] To adjust the lights

[00:24:29] To work for 10 minutes

[00:24:31] Hurry up and wait

[00:24:33] Matt's been filming a couple movies himself

[00:24:35] So I told him I'm talking to two actors tonight

[00:24:37] No I just fell into it

[00:24:39] But then I fell in love with it

[00:24:41] Edible Heels, I really love it

[00:24:43] I really

[00:24:45] I really love it because it gets me

[00:24:47] Reading more and getting into character

[00:24:49] And

[00:24:51] Learning more words

[00:24:53] And learning how to

[00:24:55] You know you can say one line 10 different ways

[00:24:57] You know so

[00:24:59] And I guess it's new you know being in the music business

[00:25:01] Over 50 years

[00:25:03] It's kind of new to me four years

[00:25:05] That makes it exciting too

[00:25:07] But I really do like it

[00:25:09] You know

[00:25:11] It's another performance

[00:25:13] You know what I'm saying

[00:25:15] Totally and it is a lot of fun

[00:25:19] When you really kind of get into

[00:25:21] Some of the characters you get to do

[00:25:23] It's a ton of fun but you are definitely not wrong

[00:25:25] It is a hurry up and wait industry

[00:25:27] My goodness

[00:25:29] Totally

[00:25:31] I used to drive me bananas in the beginning but

[00:25:33] Now I kind of get it

[00:25:35] You don't really want to like

[00:25:37] If you are waiting you don't want to go on your cell phone

[00:25:39] And you don't want to get out of character

[00:25:41] You don't want to like go talking

[00:25:43] To people because that takes you out of the moment

[00:25:45] You know so basically you are just

[00:25:47] Sitting there like

[00:25:49] Going over your lines type of thing

[00:25:51] But yeah I really do enjoy it and I'm looking

[00:25:53] To do some more and meeting

[00:25:55] Some more people

[00:25:57] Music wise you know I told you

[00:25:59] My drummer

[00:26:01] My drummer died Christmas night

[00:26:03] This past Christmas of a heart attack

[00:26:05] 38 years old

[00:26:07] 38?

[00:26:09] We just did

[00:26:11] 4 and a half weeks in South America

[00:26:13] Got home December 6th

[00:26:15] He lives in Houston on Christmas night

[00:26:17] He played his show and

[00:26:19] I don't know he started throwing up

[00:26:21] They took him to the hospital and they couldn't revive him

[00:26:23] His arteries were so

[00:26:25] They were so hardened

[00:26:27] So we had like something going on

[00:26:29] With him that caused him

[00:26:31] They couldn't revive him so

[00:26:33] It's really sad I had him

[00:26:35] For 5 years and he

[00:26:37] Was the guy so I'm really not

[00:26:39] Touring this whole year at all

[00:26:41] And I'm focusing on

[00:26:43] I'm involved with you know

[00:26:45] The publishing company and

[00:26:47] Making music for movies and things

[00:26:49] Like that so that's what I'm doing now

[00:26:51] Writing and

[00:26:53] Just taking some of my

[00:26:55] Ramones songs or some songs I've written

[00:26:57] It's really cool and they make

[00:26:59] Different versions of them

[00:27:01] Whether it's contemporary sounding

[00:27:03] You know it's really cool

[00:27:05] They got like Smash You

[00:27:07] And I wrote for the Ramones

[00:27:09] Oh oh oh oh baby

[00:27:11] Oh oh oh honey

[00:27:13] Oh don't you know

[00:27:15] You make me wanna smash you

[00:27:17] And it's really cool because

[00:27:19] The words really

[00:27:21] Stick out in these popular versions

[00:27:23] You know with all the synths going and stuff

[00:27:25] So

[00:27:27] That's what we're doing and we're making different versions

[00:27:29] Of songs that can get placed

[00:27:31] In commercials and TV

[00:27:33] And movies

[00:27:35] So that's kind of fun

[00:27:37] That someone believes in me and

[00:27:39] We're doing that now

[00:27:41] So that's cool and the acting

[00:27:43] Thing and I don't know that's about

[00:27:45] It really. So what are you

[00:27:47] Listening to like if you were to hop in your car

[00:27:49] Or if you were just kind of like you know

[00:27:51] I just listen to what's on the radio really

[00:27:53] Comes on you know and I'm not

[00:27:55] Listening to

[00:27:57] Tuning into Sirius

[00:27:59] XM or any of that shit

[00:28:01] I just don't do it

[00:28:03] You know like

[00:28:05] Who's this song? Not Carly Simon

[00:28:07] The other girl singer

[00:28:09] Like Carly Simon

[00:28:11] Alarm clock

[00:28:13] She had this song alarm clock

[00:28:15] I hate my alarm clock

[00:28:17] Or something like that and I hated this song

[00:28:19] I was like fuck I hate this song

[00:28:21] And I tell you because

[00:28:23] The propaganda and payola and paying

[00:28:25] The stations after

[00:28:27] I heard it like 30 times I started

[00:28:29] Loving it

[00:28:33] That's the key you know

[00:28:35] After a while I really

[00:28:37] Got to me like oh this does make sense

[00:28:39] Because you're dreaming

[00:28:41] She's dreaming and always dreaming

[00:28:43] And then when the alarm clock blows her whole dream

[00:28:45] And she's got to get up and stuff like that

[00:28:47] You know and it was like wow

[00:28:49] It does make sense but in the beginning

[00:28:51] I didn't really like it

[00:28:53] But you know you take my record

[00:28:55] If somebody was pushing that

[00:28:57] And pushing lift to tell or some of those songs

[00:28:59] On there they'd be all over the fucking

[00:29:01] Radio it's just what it would be

[00:29:03] They're so catchy

[00:29:05] Full of mental health lyrics

[00:29:07] In those songs and

[00:29:09] They all have something to say

[00:29:11] But nobody plays it nobody cares

[00:29:13] You make these records for yourself

[00:29:15] To get it out of your chest

[00:29:17] And to sell at the merch booth

[00:29:19] But nobody gives a

[00:29:21] Boot about it or play it anywhere

[00:29:23] Except Rodney Bingenheimer

[00:29:25] Thank God for Rodney

[00:29:27] But they don't do anything

[00:29:29] Because no one's behind there

[00:29:31] The machine isn't pushing them

[00:29:33] And pushing them and playing

[00:29:35] And playing and playing you know

[00:29:37] Cry Little Sister

[00:29:39] That cover is great even though it's

[00:29:41] Five minutes but fuck

[00:29:43] The great fucking cover you know

[00:29:45] It's my favorite version of that song

[00:29:47] I love it

[00:29:49] All guitars no

[00:29:51] Synth on that

[00:29:53] And I sang my kuhutsu off on that song

[00:29:55] I was impressed to get way up

[00:29:57] There and

[00:29:59] It's cool the way it came out you know

[00:30:01] That bass line Claire thought up

[00:30:03] Do do do do do do

[00:30:05] You know it's really

[00:30:07] It's really cool

[00:30:09] But that's it

[00:30:11] Don't expect it to do anything

[00:30:13] That's it it's gone

[00:30:15] It came it went you know and

[00:30:17] Who knows maybe somewhere

[00:30:19] Down the line someone picks it up

[00:30:21] And it has a resurgence for something

[00:30:23] You know I thought they're doing a remake

[00:30:25] Of The Lost Boys that I read

[00:30:27] Six months ago

[00:30:29] You know nice to get that in a movie but

[00:30:31] It's all I've stopped

[00:30:33] With you know this roller

[00:30:35] Coaster of life oh there should be

[00:30:37] That that's that it's very hard

[00:30:39] To live that way

[00:30:41] Do what's in your heart do what's in your heart

[00:30:43] Put out your music put out good

[00:30:45] Music that you like you know

[00:30:47] If you can get 50 percent of the people

[00:30:49] To like it and 50 percent of the people to hate it

[00:30:51] You're doing a damn good job

[00:30:53] Okay

[00:30:55] That's what it's all about

[00:30:57] Dave Jordan told me that the producer

[00:30:59] He said you know

[00:31:01] The 50-50 on that you know everybody's not

[00:31:03] Going to like everything everybody's not going

[00:31:05] To like your voice some people love my voice

[00:31:07] You know it's

[00:31:09] Like it's time to stop now

[00:31:11] Yeah

[00:31:13] No and um

[00:31:15] Just go about and do your business

[00:31:17] And do right I know in my heart

[00:31:19] If something's good and something's bad

[00:31:21] You know so that's

[00:31:23] You have to know that to start with

[00:31:25] If you don't know that

[00:31:27] Then you got some problems

[00:31:29] Am I talking too much?

[00:31:31] No not at all

[00:31:33] It's your episode

[00:31:35] Yeah that's what we're here to do

[00:31:37] Yeah

[00:31:39] We've been doing this show for almost four years now

[00:31:41] And still one of the funniest stories

[00:31:43] Ever

[00:31:45] One of the stories that if somebody was to ask me

[00:31:47] What's one story from all you know we've

[00:31:49] Done almost 200 episodes now what's

[00:31:51] One story that sticks out

[00:31:53] It's when you told us that

[00:31:55] When you were in the Ramones

[00:31:57] Um

[00:31:59] Like Johnny hated paying for hotel rooms

[00:32:01] So much that if you were playing like in

[00:32:03] Vermont or New Hampshire

[00:32:05] And your next night was in Boston you would actually

[00:32:07] Drive back to New York City to sleep and then

[00:32:09] Drive up to Boston

[00:32:11] Sure

[00:32:13] We'd get home about we'd always stop in this funky

[00:32:15] Truck stop

[00:32:17] That was all gay men I swear

[00:32:19] They must have had the free poles

[00:32:21] And it was usually around five in the morning four thirty in the morning

[00:32:23] Somewhere along the turnpike coming home

[00:32:25] Connecticut it was always the same one

[00:32:27] Because when you drive like that you always

[00:32:29] Tend to stop in the same places

[00:32:31] That was a weird place but

[00:32:33] We'd get home around seven thirty

[00:32:35] And then you know by three o'clock we'd be

[00:32:37] Going again

[00:32:39] Back up north

[00:32:41] That's always just

[00:32:43] I don't know why it just stuck with me

[00:32:45] It's just so funny that

[00:32:47] Why

[00:32:49] You could have paid back then how much is a hotel room

[00:32:51] Like 20 bucks 30 bucks

[00:32:53] No we wouldn't holiday in

[00:32:55] Holiday in's would probably be 39.95

[00:32:59] The roadies they

[00:33:01] Went right to the gig they didn't come back

[00:33:03] Okay because we had like three

[00:33:05] Big trucks so they would

[00:33:07] They would go there

[00:33:09] But we came back it was like

[00:33:11] Pretty stupid a lot of

[00:33:13] Stupid things and it could be even in the

[00:33:15] Wintertime you know

[00:33:17] You know

[00:33:19] A lot of stupid things

[00:33:21] I'm thankful I'm still here

[00:33:23] You know

[00:33:25] You ever think about that like you know moving to

[00:33:27] Alphabet City and kind of being

[00:33:29] That scene with it's interesting

[00:33:31] Who makes it and who doesn't you know

[00:33:33] But here you are still doing your thing

[00:33:35] You know yeah if

[00:33:37] I got that scene a few years earlier and got

[00:33:39] In with the heroin crowd I wouldn't

[00:33:41] Be here I wouldn't be here

[00:33:43] Because I would

[00:33:45] Love that too much you know

[00:33:47] I'm an enthusiast that's one

[00:33:49] Of the songs I'm writing enthusiast you know

[00:33:51] I want to try it I want to buy it

[00:33:53] You know where can I get it

[00:33:55] That's my type of thing you know I like to try

[00:33:57] Stuff so if I got into that crowd

[00:33:59] That would have been the end of me

[00:34:01] I know it would have been so I'm glad I

[00:34:03] Avoid that and only got

[00:34:05] Into the you know smokers

[00:34:07] Barbiturates crowd you know

[00:34:09] Saying that

[00:34:11] And not and not

[00:34:13] Went that route

[00:34:15] So I was fortunate that way

[00:34:17] Being a little too young

[00:34:19] For that scene right

[00:34:21] Well the rest of us are fortunate too

[00:34:23] Because we got to listen to a lot of your music

[00:34:25] Hell yeah

[00:34:27] Touring in the 80s is so different

[00:34:29] Than touring now in the 80s you're kind of like

[00:34:31] You have this mystique behind you because you're not

[00:34:33] You're not meeting people after

[00:34:35] The show and stuff and I know that you're really big

[00:34:37] We played with you a few years ago

[00:34:39] In Annapolis and one of the things

[00:34:41] That stuck out to me was like you would after you

[00:34:43] Played you're just out there hanging out with

[00:34:45] Everybody

[00:34:47] The only two people to sign my bass guitar

[00:34:49] Are you and Claire

[00:34:51] Oh okay cool

[00:34:53] I have on my bass

[00:34:55] Claire's pretty rad by the way

[00:34:57] Do you like it now like

[00:34:59] I went with social media and everything

[00:35:01] You do is kind of out there

[00:35:03] What do you kind of

[00:35:05] Like about that now compared to

[00:35:07] Touring maybe back in the 80s

[00:35:09] Or do you not like it

[00:35:11] Yeah if there is anything to like about it

[00:35:13] Two different things you know

[00:35:15] I mean

[00:35:17] That's the way it was back then you know

[00:35:19] Hiding like

[00:35:21] Oh catch a glimpse of one of those guys

[00:35:23] Where are they

[00:35:25] Oh you know like

[00:35:27] And then running out the back door

[00:35:29] Or trying to get backstage

[00:35:33] It's just a sign of the times that's so much different

[00:35:35] You know some bands still try to do that now

[00:35:37] Which I find appalling

[00:35:39] Can't go running away now

[00:35:41] So silly you know but

[00:35:43] But no I definitely

[00:35:45] Like to come out and talk to the

[00:35:47] Fans a big part of that is if I don't come out

[00:35:49] And talk to the fans I'm not selling any

[00:35:51] Merch you know

[00:35:53] It's important for me to be out there and meet and greet

[00:35:55] Them say hello

[00:35:57] They enjoy it so much you know

[00:35:59] You know so I work for an hour

[00:36:01] And I work for another hour after that

[00:36:03] So I guess I like

[00:36:05] Them at both times but those were both

[00:36:07] Part of what

[00:36:09] It was now if I was

[00:36:11] Playing at 10,000 people all night I couldn't

[00:36:13] Go out front you know it gets

[00:36:15] Hectic in South America if I have

[00:36:17] 1000 people whatever

[00:36:19] And I still come out that gets really

[00:36:21] Almost dangerous

[00:36:23] You know they have all this security and a thing

[00:36:25] But the people are really pushing up

[00:36:27] Pushing up on you so

[00:36:29] That becomes a little difficult

[00:36:31] I can't get nothing done but

[00:36:33] But I like

[00:36:35] I definitely like coming out and I think

[00:36:37] It's important

[00:36:41] To show the respect

[00:36:43] To show them that you know hey

[00:36:45] I'm just like you I just do this job

[00:36:47] Okay we're all the same

[00:36:49] You know and that really

[00:36:51] And they really like it they'll comment

[00:36:53] On that all the time you know

[00:36:55] And so

[00:36:57] Why not

[00:36:59] I'm gonna ask you these questions

[00:37:01] That we ask everybody we started doing this after

[00:37:03] We talked the first time so

[00:37:05] They're kind of

[00:37:07] Random questions

[00:37:09] So first question is

[00:37:11] First question

[00:37:13] Is if you were on death row what would your final

[00:37:15] Meal be?

[00:37:17] Cocovan

[00:37:19] Cocovan

[00:37:21] Chicken meal

[00:37:23] Cocovan look it up

[00:37:25] I'm looking it up right now hang on

[00:37:31] I see a Julia Child recipe for it

[00:37:33] That's Julia

[00:37:35] Chicken thighs, chicken drumsticks, red wine

[00:37:37] Oh yeah that does look really good

[00:37:39] Alright that's a good one

[00:37:41] See and I learned something tonight too

[00:37:43] I usually don't learn anything from those questions

[00:37:45] But there you go

[00:37:47] What's your favorite cereal?

[00:37:49] Cheerios just the plain ones

[00:37:51] Plain ones alright

[00:37:53] Plain Cheerios

[00:37:55] Okay

[00:37:57] Classic

[00:37:59] Alright next question is if

[00:38:01] They actually do this now if you

[00:38:03] Decide to be cremated

[00:38:05] They could take your ashes and form it into a vinyl record

[00:38:07] So if you were going to have your ashes

[00:38:09] Eternalized in an album of your

[00:38:11] Choice which one would you pick?

[00:38:13] What they can do it in vinyl?

[00:38:15] They can yeah

[00:38:17] It is crazy but they do it

[00:38:19] Unbelievable

[00:38:21] Yeah

[00:38:23] I would like to be

[00:38:25] In Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass

[00:38:27] Album

[00:38:29] Last question is who was on your Mount Rushmore of punk rock

[00:38:31] You get five people because you get a crazy horse

[00:38:33] So what five people would you say

[00:38:35] If you were designing a Mount Rushmore of punk rock

[00:38:37] Who would you put up there?

[00:38:39] Well naturally all the brothers

[00:38:41] Gotcha

[00:38:43] Johnny Doe Deedee

[00:38:45] And we got

[00:38:47] Tommy so

[00:38:49] That's the fourth among

[00:38:51] He was the inventor

[00:38:53] So all those guys

[00:38:55] Did everything

[00:38:57] And the fifth would be Seymour Stein

[00:38:59] For taking a chance

[00:39:01] On the band

[00:39:03] Cool

[00:39:05] Nice

[00:39:07] What do you have coming up Richie?

[00:39:09] I'm going to New York City for the Joey Moe birthday bash

[00:39:11] That's May 19th

[00:39:13] I just tried to get tickets for that but it's already sold out

[00:39:15] No it's not

[00:39:17] I went on Bowery

[00:39:19] Electric and it said no tickets

[00:39:21] Available on this website so maybe I'll keep looking

[00:39:23] If it's not sold out I will see you there

[00:39:25] I'm going to that

[00:39:27] And then I'm going to go to that movie in July

[00:39:29] That's pretty much about

[00:39:31] It on my plate right now

[00:39:33] And doing all working with this

[00:39:35] Writing for these movies and stuff

[00:39:37] That's awesome

[00:39:39] I'm kind of home

[00:39:41] I'm not really touring right now

[00:39:43] Are you guys playing or anything?

[00:39:45] No so

[00:39:47] Our bands have both like COVID kind of

[00:39:49] We lost our drum not lost our

[00:39:51] Drummer but our drummer left

[00:39:53] Why? You yelled at him?

[00:39:55] No he just

[00:39:57] He decided not to play drums

[00:39:59] Anymore for whatever reason

[00:40:01] No he yelled

[00:40:03] I didn't yell

[00:40:05] I don't yell at people

[00:40:07] No?

[00:40:09] No no no

[00:40:11] We haven't played in a very

[00:40:13] Actually I think the last show that we played

[00:40:15] Might have been with you in 2019

[00:40:17] In Minneapolis

[00:40:19] So Matt and I just we do this podcast every week

[00:40:21] And we promote some shows in DC

[00:40:25] We do about 3 or 4 shows a year in DC

[00:40:27] I work with some

[00:40:29] Tour managers and they hit me up every

[00:40:31] January February

[00:40:33] So we do that

[00:40:35] We keep up we talk to we have tons of friends

[00:40:37] And punk bands across the country that we like to give

[00:40:39] Kind of like an outlet too

[00:40:41] To kind of promote their shit

[00:40:43] That's what we do every week

[00:40:45] I've kind of gone your direction

[00:40:47] After my band

[00:40:49] Fell apart because of COVID

[00:40:51] I have gone the acting direction

[00:40:53] Oh great

[00:40:55] Yep

[00:40:57] That's great

[00:40:59] You two might cross paths one day because you both act in the same kind of movies

[00:41:01] It's quite

[00:41:03] Possible actually

[00:41:05] Some of the people I've recently worked

[00:41:07] With I think have crossed your path a couple

[00:41:09] Times

[00:41:11] Oh okay cool

[00:41:13] It may be possible who knows

[00:41:15] Yeah I don't really

[00:41:17] Do much in the states

[00:41:19] Anymore either it's just not

[00:41:21] It's not for me

[00:41:23] No it doesn't really work for me

[00:41:25] Latin America, South America

[00:41:27] Down there is magnificent

[00:41:29] In some parts

[00:41:31] And Sweden and Norway are really good

[00:41:33] But you know

[00:41:35] A lot of these promoters

[00:41:37] Don't want to pay any money

[00:41:39] And you know

[00:41:41] It's a lot

[00:41:43] Of work for nothing

[00:41:45] I don't like to play rooms where people have their arms folded

[00:41:47] You know what I'm saying

[00:41:49] I don't need that

[00:41:51] I don't need to have the passion or

[00:41:53] You know go see the cover bands

[00:41:55] Because they really like that and there's nothing wrong with it

[00:41:57] It's just not

[00:41:59] It's just not fulfilling for me

[00:42:01] To do that

[00:42:03] That's all, that's just me

[00:42:05] That sucks but that's the state of music right now

[00:42:07] Yeah well here

[00:42:09] Look at it all over in England and everywhere

[00:42:11] They're all like you know

[00:42:13] I'm going to just be a little more choosy

[00:42:15] Of what I'm doing right now

[00:42:17] And it sucks for the fans who

[00:42:19] Really want to see me

[00:42:21] You know the 30 people in Annapolis

[00:42:23] But

[00:42:25] I can't do it

[00:42:27] It's really expensive too

[00:42:31] You know fly in hotels

[00:42:33] All that stuff adds up

[00:42:35] Rent an SUV is like you know

[00:42:37] $180 a day

[00:42:41] Well man it was nice talking to you guys

[00:42:43] See you finally

[00:42:45] How many times did I cancel?

[00:42:47] 14 times?

[00:42:49] Not 14, more like 3 or 4

[00:42:51] It's all good

[00:42:53] I know there was a 3 and a 4

[00:42:55] We appreciate it

[00:42:57] Good luck with what you're acting and everything

[00:42:59] It's always nice to chat with you guys

[00:43:01] Yeah same

[00:43:03] Alright take care Richie thanks so much

[00:43:05] This will come out on Sunday I'll send you the link

[00:43:07] Ok

[00:43:09] Alright take care Richie

[00:43:11] Peace

[00:44:31] That voice so clear

[00:44:33] Through broken walls

[00:44:35] That scream

[00:44:37] By the masquerade

[00:45:11] Strangers look off

[00:45:13] When will they learn

[00:45:17] Of this loneliness

[00:45:23] Temptation beats

[00:45:25] Beats like a drum

[00:45:27] Deep in your veins

[00:45:31] I will not lie

[00:45:35] Little sister

[00:45:39] Come

[00:45:41] Come to your brother

[00:45:45] Oh

[00:45:47] Chasing sister

[00:45:51] Love

[00:45:53] With your brother

[00:45:55] Yeah

[00:46:30] Shake with love

[00:46:32] I can't forget

[00:46:34] An age